Sports Media discussion

[iamshack]

LMAO. Yes, let's try to make that ridiculous connection, he's trying to make money off sexual assault. He's actually trying to fight it if you listen to him, which you claim you don't, but probably do.

 

Doubt he makes any money off of talking about Alford directly. He's been at the Score what, 15 years? He's a salaried employee, probably pretty consistent with that as well. I highly doubt the ratings spike due to talking about Alford for a few days, and enough to have someone walk into the office with a giant bag of money.

 

It's not about money.

I'm certainly not trying to minimize what Alford did, but don't you think Bernstein is being a bit overdramatic? This kind of s*** goes on constantly with big time college and pro sports and male athletes. All one needs to do is see how glorified high-profile male athletes are in our culture and how they are allowed to literally get away with murder to understand that this incident is a mere blip on the radar of transgressions committed probably almost daily.

 

To act as though what Alford did is somehow unique or unheard of, given the energy Bernstein has devoted to this, certainly makes it seem as though he has another agenda in mind here.

[StrangeSox]

I'm certainly not trying to minimize what Alford did, but don't you think Bernstein is being a bit overdramatic? This kind of s*** goes on constantly with big time college and pro sports and male athletes. All one needs to do is see how glorified high-profile male athletes are in our culture and how they are allowed to literally get away with murder to understand that this incident is a mere blip on the radar of transgressions committed probably almost daily.

 

To act as though what Alford did is somehow unique or unheard of, given the energy Bernstein has devoted to this, certainly makes it seem as though he has another agenda in mind here.

 

Bernstein is always overdramatic, that's his thing. But it seems like this is a consistent issue for him, the abuse of power in the sports world to cover up incidents like this.

[Dick Allen]

Using a large media platform to bring up the issue again and again (Penn State, Stuebenville, Alford) is "doing something"

How much time did Bernstein spend on Ray Lewis? Considering the things his 70 year old partner says, it's pretty hard to use that show as a platform for morals.

Edited April 3, 2013 by Dick Allen

[IlliniKrush]

So outside of talking about Steve Alford, what is he doing to actually fight sexual assault? Is he donating to organizations? Is he volunteering at battered women's shelters? Talking about a news story isn't nearly equal to actually fighting something.

Well he's certainly not trying to make money off of it, which is my main point. Awareness is part of fighting it. I don't know what he does in his free time. At least he's not doing what Alford did to help to just let it go.

[StrangeSox]

How much time did Bernstein spend on Ray Lewis?

 

I dunno, he was pretty negative on him pre-SB this year. Not sure what that has to do with whether or not using a media outlet to promote or raise awareness of something counts as "doing something," though.

[Dick Allen]

Bernstein is always overdramatic, that's his thing. But it seems like this is a consistent issue for him, the abuse of power in the sports world to cover up incidents like this.

How has his rants changed things other than he gets to hear himself talk?

[IlliniKrush]

I'm certainly not trying to minimize what Alford did, but don't you think Bernstein is being a bit overdramatic? This kind of s*** goes on constantly with big time college and pro sports and male athletes. All one needs to do is see how glorified high-profile male athletes are in our culture and how they are allowed to literally get away with murder to understand that this incident is a mere blip on the radar of transgressions committed probably almost daily.

 

To act as though what Alford did is somehow unique or unheard of, given the energy Bernstein has devoted to this, certainly makes it seem as though he has another agenda in mind here.

Part of it stems from the interview that was on his show when the whole thing happened, so there's a stronger connection there.

[StrangeSox]

I guess you two can reject the entire idea of awareness of an issue being important, have fun!

[IlliniKrush]

How much time did Bernstein spend on Ray Lewis? Considering the things his 70 year old partner says, it's pretty hard to use that show as a platform for morals.

A pretty good amount of time. They were all over him for 2 weeks leading up to it.

[IlliniKrush]

I guess you two can reject the entire idea of awareness of an issue being important, have fun!

I'll forever think of them when I see someone wearing pink for breast cancer AWARENESS et al.

[iamshack]

Bernstein is always overdramatic, that's his thing. But it seems like this is a consistent issue for him, the abuse of power in the sports world to cover up incidents like this.

That's fine...but maybe he could discuss the overarching issue a bit more...instead of just zeroing in on Alford, who he clearly has a personal issue with outside of this particular transgression.

[Dick Allen]

A pretty good amount of time. They were all over him for 2 weeks leading up to it.

Why did he stop? ESPN hired Lewis. ESPN radio is a direct competitor to Bernstein. He should go on and on about it everyday.

[StrangeSox]

That's fine...but maybe he could discuss the overarching issue a bit more...instead of just zeroing in on Alford, who he clearly has a personal issue with outside of this particular transgression.

He was stuck on PSU for about a year, he's covered Stuebenville, he's discussed the crap at ND, and now he's discussing Alford because he's in the news. Yeah, it's an excuse for him to break out his hobby-horse, but that doesn't mean it's illegitimate.

 

He's not running some esoteric show on NPR that's going to invite on a bunch of sociologists to discuss the issue, so he's going to use the current hot topic to rant about. Like agreed earlier, it seems like he has something personal with Alford, but this fits a common theme.

[iamshack]

Bernstein has always just been so much of an egotistical prick that he veers off what the point should be, in favor of his own personal agendas, which usually is getting the last word in in any debate. It takes away from the show and makes him unbearable at times.

[StrangeSox]

Bernstein has always just been so much of an egotistical prick that he veers off what the point should be, in favor of his own personal agendas, which usually is getting the last word in in any debate. It takes away from the show and makes him unbearable at times.

I don't think anyone is disagreeing there.

[IlliniKrush]

Why did he stop? ESPN hired Lewis. ESPN radio is a direct competitor to Bernstein. He should go on and on about it everyday.

Because it's not as topical anymore.

 

He was stuck on PSU for about a year, he's covered Stuebenville, he's discussed the crap at ND, and now he's discussing Alford because he's in the news. Yeah, it's an excuse for him to break out his hobby-horse, but that doesn't mean it's illegitimate.

 

He's not running some esoteric show on NPR that's going to invite on a bunch of sociologists to discuss the issue, so he's going to use the current hot topic to rant about. Like agreed earlier, it seems like he has something personal with Alford, but this fits a common theme.

Good summary. He's covered a lot of areas. It's not just against Alford.

 

This too will pass, Alford apologists.

[Dick Allen]

Because it's not as topical anymore.

 

 

Good summary. He's covered a lot of areas. It's not just against Alford.

 

This too will pass, Alford apologists.

Well, there is the Rutgers coach. If Bernstein is such a moral guy, and questionable behavior bothers his so much, sports really shouldn't be his bag. Usually, the holier than thou guys in real life turn out to be the biggest scumbags.

[StrangeSox]

LOL, yup, Bernstein is likely a scumbag because he calls out known scumbag Alford.

[Dick Allen]

LOL, yup, Bernstein is likely a scumbag because he calls out known scumbag Alford.

I am not saying that just because of Alford. It was mentioned he calls out a lot of people. It is not uncommon those types of guys are pretty sleasy when it comes to their own personal business.

[StrangeSox]

f***, you're right, I bet Bernstein has covered up a bunch of sexual assaults!

 

edit: you're finding a way to brush aside criticism of Alford and direct it to Bernstein no matter what's brought up. either he cares too much, or not enough, or he's not doing anything, or he's not doing enough with other issues, or he's making money or he's alienating his fanbase, or, scrapping all that, he's probably the real moral monster here! Heads you win, tails Bernstein has a bigger scandal than PSU and the RCC combined.

Edited April 3, 2013 by StrangeSox

[HuskyCaucasian]

Bernstein has always just been so much of an egotistical prick that he veers off what the point should be, in favor of his own personal agendas, which usually is getting the last word in in any debate. It takes away from the show and makes him unbearable at times.

he comes across as a self-important bully

[iamshack]

f***, you're right, I bet Bernstein has covered up a bunch of sexual assaults!

Laugh of the day....

[HuskyCaucasian]

LOL, yup, Bernstein is likely a scumbag because he calls out known scumbag Alford.

In my book it's not so much that he hates Alford. But he feels the need to bring up something that is almost 10 years old just because he got a new job. I dont remember him going out of his way to turn the NM media against Alford. but now that he's in LA, this is Bernstein's time to get him.

 

He almost seemed to think that clearly UCLA didnt do its research in hiring Alford. because, clearly no college team would want to hire such a horrible human being.

Edited April 3, 2013 by Athomeboy_2000

[StrangeSox]

Yeah but "sports being used to cover up sexual assault" is kinda topical right now.

[IlliniKrush]

f***, you're right, I bet Bernstein has covered up a bunch of sexual assaults!

 

edit: you're finding a way to brush aside criticism of Alford and direct it to Bernstein no matter what's brought up. either he cares too much, or not enough, or he's not doing anything, or he's not doing enough with other issues, or he's making money or he's alienating his fanbase, or, scrapping all that, he's probably the real moral monster here! Heads you win, tails Bernstein has a bigger scandal than PSU and the RCC combined.

I'll add more - this is all just a cover up

 

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