maggsmaggs Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 02:35 PM) This deal is a steal. Kind of surprised Sale signed for so cheap. He was on sale...I couldn't resist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (The Ultimate Champion @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 02:42 PM) This. Sale's good years, if he's healthy, are $20M pitcher years. 1 of those makes this contract a steal, 2 and it's a mugging, 3 it's... well, you get the idea. He gave the Sox a $20 million season last year. Even if he does get hurt, if he gives you 2 more of those seasons in the first 5 years, he's already giving you your bang for your buck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I never would have thought Sale would come this cheap. I was on board for shopping him because I thought it would take a whole lot more than this to get it done.... just wow. Terrific move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 this team has dick for talent to pay, might as well pay a young stud starter. if his arm explodes, oh damn, team still sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 02:43 PM) He gave the Sox a $20 million season last year. Even if he does get hurt, if he gives you 2 more of those seasons in the first 5 years, he's already giving you your bang for your buck. Exactly. I'm just shocked you could get such a good player to sign a deal so team-friendly that it basically removes risk from the equation. Sale is going to be making closer money. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeNukeEm Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Hard not to like this, but I said exactly that when we extended Danks soooooo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (Sockin @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 02:23 PM) Scratch that, 5 years, 32 million. https://twitter.com/DanHayesCSN/status/309760238226128897 https://twitter.com/DanHayesCSN/status/309760956408410113 By the end of this contract it isn't crazy that a guy like Chris Sale could be worth $32 million a year on the open market. That is my perspective on this deal. Those last two options years are a massive discount. Thanks Chris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 02:25 PM) Nice, now please don't let his arm fall off. Even if you lose him for an entire year, the contract should still be a bargain. That is how good this deal is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Great news! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Really good deal for the Sox if his arm doesnt explode Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS Chris sale can make $60M w/ 2 options if he wins a cy young, $59M if he finishes 2nd or 3rd in any year 13-18. #chisox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Dan Hayes @DanHayesCSN Compare this to Tim Lincecum, who got $63.5m in years 2 thru 6. #WhiteSox deal worth risk. Sale could get $60m for years 3 thru 9. #SFGiants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I like the deal. Works for me! (Also not my money!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Can I get a hellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll yessssh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) Even if you lose him for an entire year, the contract should still be a bargain. That is how good this deal is. Sale could put up $32 million of value this year. Hell he could do that and not win the Cy Young. Verlander was $30.8 million last year in the fWAR world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 I absolutely love this deal... Well done Hahn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 03:28 PM) Jon Heyman @JonHeymanCBS Chris sale can make $60M w/ 2 options if he wins a cy young, $59M if he finishes 2nd or 3rd in any year 13-18. #chisox So let's just call it 7yr/60 mil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Risky with any pitcher, but this is still a big market club with a decent size payroll, totally love the risk here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 WHERES THE BIG MOVES HAHN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 WOW, this is fantastic! Still trying to figure out what these numbers mean, but I'm very pleased we can lock down Sale. If we are going to develop sparse talent, we might as well lock it down when we hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Absolutely fantastic move. We just locked up a potential top 5 starter in baseball for the next 4 or 6 years (excluding this coming season). The total cost of his abritration years (including his minor bump this year) is only about $19 million or $6.3 million per. For comparison, Tim Lincecum got $18 million in his 3rd arbitration year alone. I have no doubt if we went year to year with Sale he'd easily get $25 to $30 million over the next three seasons. On top of that, we get him for three potential free agency years all at affordable costs, with only one of them guaranteed. We're talking about $60 to $90 million in value for a total cost of $37 million, with only $12 million guaranteed. Having those two option years is just incredibly valuable. They mitigate so much of the risk associated with this type of deal. Also, just having the cost certainty is a huge plus. We don't have to worry about him winning the Cy Young award and then getting Lincecum type money in his arb years. With Sale now locked up at set prices, we should have more flexibility to spend in free agency to fill some of our offensive needs, especially as guys like Konerko, Dunn, & Rios come off the books. Hahn deserves a lot of credit for convincing Sale to agree to a below-market extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 06:17 PM) Hahn deserves a lot of credit for convincing Sale to agree to a below-market extension. Correct. If he stays healthy, Hahn may very well have just created a contending team for the next 7 years. An underpaid ace can do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 If healthy, this is robbery. But it's also a nice reward for Chris. We know what Chris is capable of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 You have Sale-Danks-Peavy-Q-Santiago all under team control for at least 3 years. Sounds like a good place to start from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 7, 2013 -> 06:31 PM) Correct. If he stays healthy, Hahn may very well have just created a contending team for the next 7 years. An underpaid ace can do that. Agree 100%. It all starts with starting pitching and having a legit ace makes filling out the rest of rotation a lot easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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