IlliniKrush Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (farmteam @ Mar 14, 2013 -> 08:40 PM) Surely you can't be serious. Of course not. QUOTE (Rex Hudler @ Mar 14, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) 8-10 or 9-9... or even 10-8. Records are deceiving because of unbalanced conference schedules. That's why they look at the whole body or work, not just the conference season. Iowa screwed themselves by playing NOBODY in the non-conference part of the schedule. The committee has said year after year, if you don't schedule good teams, there is no automatic benchmark for qualification, aka 20 wins or .500 in conference play. The tournament is perfect as it is. The whole regular season matters. There is a good mix of little guys and major schools. It is entertainment at its best! The only change I would make would be with the conference tournaments in the smaller school leagues. Neutral sites don't work in the smallest of leagues. The team that wins the conference should be awarded a home court advantage. There are a lot of ways to do it, but that would help protect the Middle Tennessee's of the basketball world. Stop being logical and worry about losing tomorrow morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Mar 14, 2013 -> 08:47 PM) Of course not. Stop being logical and worry about losing tomorrow morning. Sorry, I'll go back to grandstanding with a large dose of homerism! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Iowa should be winning by about 30, they've missed a ton of wide open jumpers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Will Bill Carmody coach another game at Northwestern? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 14, 2013 -> 11:13 PM) Will Bill Carmody coach another game at Northwestern? They should really go in a different direction. I like Bill Carmody, seems like a great guy, but it hasn't worked out. It will be weird to see Northwestern run a different system, though. There's no reason they can't be competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (farmteam @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 01:21 AM) They should really go in a different direction. I like Bill Carmody, seems like a great guy, but it hasn't worked out. It will be weird to see Northwestern run a different system, though. There's no reason they can't be competitive. The injuries are not his fault, but I really doubt that is a tournament team if everyone stays healthy and passes their classes. Their new facilities which are either being built or about to begin construction will help them. Carmody seems like a good guy and probably is a good coach, but it isn't working at NU. Of course you can say that for every NU basketball coach, so the problem is probably not with the coaches. Chances are the next guy is going to fail. I wonder if Carmody even wants to come back. He must be sick of the beatings and all the job speculation the last couple of years, but I would imagine he's gone either way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Who's a NW fan here? Zoom? Didn't Carmody sign their best recruit ever and he's made it known that he'll leave if Carmody leaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (farmteam @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 01:21 AM) They should really go in a different direction. I like Bill Carmody, seems like a great guy, but it hasn't worked out. It will be weird to see Northwestern run a different system, though. There's no reason they can't be competitive. He's been there 13 years with really nothing to show for it. Time to move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Realistically, who better are you going to get to take that job? That is probably one of the most impossible jobs in the entire country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 10:14 AM) Realistically, who better are you going to get to take that job? That is probably one of the most impossible jobs in the entire country. But the Football program has done well; what impediments are there for basketball that aren't for football? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (farmteam @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 10:22 AM) But the Football program has done well; what impediments are there for basketball that aren't for football? I think it's easier to win in football without top recruits than in basketball. You can find lower-ranked players that fit your scheme, some high-energy players that slipped through the recruiting rankings. When there are so many more players out there, it's easier to find diamonds in the rough. As much as they are both "team" games, one star player makes a way bigger difference in basketball than in football. Edited March 15, 2013 by LittleHurt05 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 10:33 AM) I think it's easier to win in football without top recruits than in basketball. You can find lower-ranked players that fit your scheme, some high-energy players that slipped through the recruiting rankings. When there are so many more players out there, it's easier to find diamonds in the rough. As much as they are both "team" games, one star player makes a way bigger difference in basketball than in football. Schemes and coaching are also infinitely more important in football than in basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 10:14 AM) Realistically, who better are you going to get to take that job? That is probably one of the most impossible jobs in the entire country. I dont know if I agree with that. Bball teams have such limited schollies there should be enough talent even in this area to go around. I think Carmody's system has hurt his recruiting efforts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 First bulls*** call achieved on Sam McLaurin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 11:05 AM) I dont know if I agree with that. Bball teams have such limited schollies there should be enough talent even in this area to go around. I think Carmody's system has hurt his recruiting efforts. The team has never made the big dance in the history of NW basketball. It isn't just Carmody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 And another one, falling under the "Cody Zeller protection" rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Wow, Northwestern talk! Nice, because the NU rivals board is horrible right now. I'll respond to several posts because it's easier for me that a huge wall of text. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Illinois playing good D so far, despite the calls I'm complaining about they're letting quite a bit go on both ends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 11:11 AM) Illinois playing good D so far, despite the calls I'm complaining about they're letting quite a bit go on both ends. They are letting quite a bit go. While the call on McLaurin was bad, there have been bad/missed calls both ways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 If you stop the ball out higher you eliminate that throw back 3 that Watford constantly gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 10:11 AM) Illinois playing good D so far, despite the calls I'm complaining about they're letting quite a bit go on both ends. Not sure what you are complaining about. They called Zeller on the foul he deserved. The screw up was the call they should have made on Hulls but instead gave it to the screener. Then they don't call one when Zeller practically gets shoved out of bounds after Oladipo tried to draw a foul in the lane and missed. Not sure how much they are letting go since it seems there has been a whistle every 30 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 11:09 AM) The team has never made the big dance in the history of NW basketball. It isn't just Carmody. Understandable but 13 years of status quo should be enough to try something else. There is bball talent all around the state of IL that leaks into MAC schools that they could keep home. I think you need someone who can actually recruit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 08:06 AM) The injuries are not his fault, but I really doubt that is a tournament team if everyone stays healthy and passes their classes. Their new facilities which are either being built or about to begin construction will help them. Carmody seems like a good guy and probably is a good coach, but it isn't working at NU. Of course you can say that for every NU basketball coach, so the problem is probably not with the coaches. Chances are the next guy is going to fail. I wonder if Carmody even wants to come back. He must be sick of the beatings and all the job speculation the last couple of years, but I would imagine he's gone either way. This was definitely not "the year" like a few in the past. Outside of Crawford and to a lesser extent Sobolewski, there were a ton of question marks. They had no #2 scorer (people were hoping Cobb before he got suspended) and the interior was still a huge issue (two transfers and a few freshmen bigs). Add in the injuries and it was always going to get ugly. The problem with the new facilities is that it's mostly about football with the indoor practice field and new offices. I'm not even sure there will be a basketball court in the facility, specifics are still a bit sketchy since it isn't really moving along yet. I would assume hoops will have access to the weight room ect, but there's nothing being done to the locker rooms or arena yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 Illinois hasn't taken the time to get a quality look on offense yet. I've seen this movie before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted March 15, 2013 Share Posted March 15, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Mar 15, 2013 -> 11:17 AM) Illinois hasn't taken the time to get a quality look on offense yet. I've seen this movie before. Need to go right at Hulls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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