The Ultimate Champion Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Can't believe there isn't already a thread on this. AWESOME news for the Sox, s***ty news for Theo, lots of crying on the North, probably some cheers to be heard in Sox FO once this goes through. LOVE IT! Please discuss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 A link would be nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 19, 2013 -> 09:49 AM) A link would be nice a link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yes, it was that hard. It's also nice when the person with the original post provides a link so I don't have to go about digging for one myself so that I can speak within the same context of what he or she is posting so as to have relevant information. It's a common courtesy to accelerate conversation. For all I knew, he may have been referencing the idea of a Worldwide Draft that came up during the last CBA. --- I'm curious to know about age restrictions with regards to international free agents into the future. You can sign a professional contract at the age of 16, but will they allow you to be drafted? Will they hold the worldwide draft separately from the first year player draft, or will it work similar to the NBA? How does previous professional experience figure into bylaws (ala Cuban immigrants as well as Asian players and the current posting system)? There are a lot of questions that need to be a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Did this actually happen? I have a job so if someone posts someone I expect there to be a link. I went to two sites and found nothing so I assume this is more discussion or there have been some movements that MLB is getting closer to getting all parties to agree to such? Clearly Selig has wanted to do this for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Mar 19, 2013 -> 10:23 AM) Did this actually happen? I have a job so if someone posts someone I expect there to be a link. I went to two sites and found nothing so I assume this is more discussion or there have been some movements that MLB is getting closer to getting all parties to agree to such? Clearly Selig has wanted to do this for a while. MLB suggesting they want it to get done badly and that they are willing to give up major concessions including an increased minimum salary and decreased time before reaching arbitration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 19, 2013 -> 10:17 AM) Yes, it was that hard. It's also nice when the person with the original post provides a link so I don't have to go about digging for one myself so that I can speak within the same context of what he or she is posting so as to have relevant information. It's a common courtesy to accelerate conversation. Agreed completely - just f***ing with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 19, 2013 -> 11:48 AM) Agreed completely - just f***ing with you. This...arouses me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Yet another thing that will help the White Sox recover from the Wilder fiasco. Theo has to be steaming. But this, along with the new draft payment cap, really helps the Sox farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ultimate Champion Posted March 19, 2013 Author Share Posted March 19, 2013 Jiminy Christmas! I didn't post a link because I got the info off a headline post on MLBTR, and posting a link to MLBTR seemed kind of potinless. Maybe it's just me, but starting a thread about a worldwide draft and posting a link to MLBTR is kind of like starting a thread about spaghetti and posting a link to Chef Boyardee products, I mean it's not really spaghetti, and MLBTR isn't really news either. I was hoping someone else had more real info & actually was surprised to see there wasn't a thread on this already. I checked 3 forums, no thread, my mind was blown. Anyway, great news for the Sox. I'm not sure why the MLBPA would care enough to fight this at all since they would probably rather see more resources committed to proven players and US-based prospects than buscones and Japanese teams. It's amazing this has taken so long but it'll be terrific for the Sox once it goes through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 19, 2013 Share Posted March 19, 2013 Nice to see so many fans of foreigners coming in a taking jobs. Seriously this should have happened ten years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Players Association would have to approve it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 07:43 AM) Players Association would have to approve it. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 19, 2013 -> 10:30 AM) MLB suggesting they want it to get done badly and that they are willing to give up major concessions including an increased minimum salary and decreased time before reaching arbitration. And that is how it gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 Sox move up to 17 with Lohse signing in Milwaukee. http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=7674 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 25, 2013 -> 12:22 PM) Sox move up to 17 with Lohse signing in Milwaukee. http://www.perfectgame.org/Articles/View.aspx?article=7674 Woo! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Great article, Flavum. Thanks. I'm surprised there wasn't more conversation here on Lohse. Never saw any evidence that Sox were interested, so I guess they were not. And speaking of lost number 1 picks, I still wish we had not given up a #1 for Dunn. That unknown player would have had 2 seasons of pro ball by now..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 08:23 AM) Great article, Flavum. Thanks. I'm surprised there wasn't more conversation here on Lohse. Never saw any evidence that Sox were interested, so I guess they were not. And speaking of lost number 1 picks, I still wish we had not given up a #1 for Dunn. That unknown player would have had 2 seasons of pro ball by now..... We're literally overloaded on middle of the rotation to bottom of the rotation pitchers, and we spent FA money on a better starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 06:45 AM) We're literally overloaded on middle of the rotation to bottom of the rotation pitchers, and we spent FA money on a better starter. I assume you mean Peavy, or are you referring to the recent Sale extension? No argument. Back to Lohse, I wonder how much good agent Boros did for Lohse. He was certainly looking for more money than the Brewers gave him. I can't remember what the Cards offered Lohse/Boros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 08:17 AM) I assume you mean Peavy, or are you referring to the recent Sale extension? No argument. Back to Lohse, I wonder how much good agent Boros did for Lohse. He was certainly looking for more money than the Brewers gave him. I can't remember what the Cards offered Lohse/Boros. I believe the only offer the Cards made him was the qualifying offer they had to make in order to get the comp pick. I think that was somewhere around $13 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 08:25 AM) I believe the only offer the Cards made him was the qualifying offer they had to make in order to get the comp pick. I think that was somewhere around $13 million. In retrospect it might have been smarter to take that money and try again next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 02:33 PM) In retrospect it might have been smarter to take that money and try again next year. Is there a multi-year penalty for offering a guy a QO 2 years in a row? (Like there is with the franchise tag in football?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) In retrospect it might have been smarter to take that money and try again next year. The odds of him going 16-3 with a 2.86 ERA again are pretty slim. Who knows if a better offer would be out there next year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 A world draft is a horrible idea and just another way MLB is screwing up internationally. The new CBA is awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 7, 2013 -> 10:57 AM) A world draft is a horrible idea and just another way MLB is screwing up internationally. The new CBA is awful. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2013 Share Posted April 7, 2013 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 7, 2013 -> 10:57 AM) A world draft is a horrible idea and just another way MLB is screwing up internationally. The new CBA is awful. It is a great idea to balance the flow of international talent to the teams that can't spend with the Yankees of the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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