Reddy Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 or what if it's this: pitchers are inconsistent. all pitchers. unless you're the best of the best (top 5-10 pitchers in the league) you're going to have big bouts of inconsistency. that doesn't make you a "mental midget". it makes you a normal MLB pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 10:53 AM) I think that after Gavin got some positive feedback last year on some adjustment(s) in his delivery and did well that we see winning results this year. I for one would have no problem with keeping him beyond this contract. If you could have, this team would still have Jermaine Dye on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 20, 2013 Author Share Posted March 20, 2013 Calling Floyd a mental midget and worse? Man there are a lot of racists in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 I know as a Sox fan I'm overly critical of Sox players. Floyd has a lifetime ERA of 4.29 (4.20 with the Sox), and has averaged nearly 170 innings and 134 Ks a season while with the Sox. That's not bad at all. If he can gain some better consistent control, he could be a 18-20 game winner with a sub 4.00 ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 05:21 PM) If you could have, this team would still have Jermaine Dye on it. And you would have everyone traded Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 01:42 PM) And you would have everyone traded Ha, not quite, we'd still have Buehrle and Konerko Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 05:34 PM) Calling Floyd a mental midget and worse? Man there are a lot of racists in this thread. I don't understand it myself. I can accept that some might want a player traded, released, etc, or just don't think they are a good fit, but name calling and such seems too much. I also think folks ought to satrt thinking of the alternative and the replacement and make a rational argument instead of so much hyperbole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 20, 2013 -> 09:34 AM) Calling Floyd a mental midget and worse? Man there are a lot of racists in this thread. Well, I do hate white people, Myself included, so... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottyDo Posted March 20, 2013 Share Posted March 20, 2013 Insensitive language aside (guilty as charged), I don't know that we've been providing a particularly disparaging criticism. Every pitcher has weaknesses, and I think his is losing focus based on what people who know the guy have said, and the fact that his numbers are consistent with the hypothesis. I don't think we should get rid of him, nor would I be against signing him for the upcoming years. Just because people are pointing out a flaw doesn't mean they want him thrown to the wolves or something. I just think nobody should expect anything great out of him. Perhaps one season circumstances will work out such that he feels really comfortable and puts it all together, but I don't think you will ever see a switch flip on permanently. He is who he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted March 21, 2013 Share Posted March 21, 2013 Gavin Floyd is underrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 21, 2013 Author Share Posted March 21, 2013 QUOTE (whitesox901 @ Mar 21, 2013 -> 02:00 AM) Gavin Floyd is underrated. By most Sox fans? For sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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