Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/9099401/...cy-rules-unfair Awwww, the guy that has gamed the system for the better part of the last 20 years is upset that he has to alter his approach? I am so sad for him and the millions of dollars he makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I am now happy with the new free agent system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I think the new system is far better than the previous one. Teams have to be willing to expend a great deal of money to garner any sort of compensation on the free agent market as opposed to the mere 120% of the previous salary (and not even that was a guarantee). This eliminates getting draft picks for guys like Randy Choate or Darren Oliver or whatever other absurd examples you can think of. This also generally assures that players that garner compensation are good, quality players, because you don't want to screw yourself and end up having to pay someone like AJ Pierzynski $13 million a year. It also avoids loopholes that teams like the A's and Red Sox exploited when they'd trade for a player simply because he was going to be a Type A or Type B free agent, offer arbitration (to see them turn it down), and scoop up draft picks for which other teams couldn't afford the financial risk (because while the Rays couldn't risk paying Felipe Lopez $4.5 million to be a bench player for them, the Red Sox certainly could, and the Rays would rather get something than nothing). Now, to be fair, this hasn't entirely been eliminated, but it's lot harder to submit three $13 million qualifying offers to free agents and avoid getting burned than it was $4 million and less. It also takes bad seasons out of the equation and values players based on what the league values them at rather than their numbers - Joe Doe, who is the pentultimate 5 tool player who happens to be coming off a bad season and injury plagued season, will still either fetch compensation or will be retained for 1 year and $13 million. Teams will still have literally 0 problem ponying up that draft pick for a really good player. I didn't hear anybody whining about it when Josh Hamilton signed. Why's that? But when Kyle Lohse - he of the 4.45 career ERA, the 6.55 ERA in 2010, an ERA below 4.00 in 3 out of 12 seasons, with an ERA+ of 110 or better in only 2 of 12 seasons, and only 1 season (this past season) being his only really good season - signs a contract for what is more than fair market value WHILE the Brewers give up a 1st round pick, there's a problem? To be polite, that just doesn't make a lot of sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think Scott Boras is corrupt and unfair. You've worked the system for millions, quit crying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwritecode Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 26, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) Joe Doe, who is the pentultimate 5 tool player The second-to-last 5 tool player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Mar 28, 2013 -> 01:20 PM) The second-to-last 5 tool player? I very rarely ever see that penultimate used correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Mar 28, 2013 -> 01:20 PM) The second-to-last 5 tool player? Which makes him that much more rare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillMissOzzie Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I would concur with those who say that if Bora$ doesn't like it, there must be SOME good in it. SMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Seems like someone is sour over losing one of the biggest-to-be FA out there to Jay-Z, haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 14, 2013 Share Posted April 14, 2013 Bor-ASS time you got a little of your own medicine. I love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I'll never ubderstand the Boras hatred. He makes millions for his clients, exactly what I would want in an agent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 QUOTE (Tex @ Apr 29, 2013 -> 12:51 PM) I'll never ubderstand the Boras hatred. He makes millions for his clients, exactly what I would want in an agent. I personally don't hate him, I just think he's a giant douche. He cries poor and unfair when the rules don't work to his advantage, but he never sympathized when he was raking teams over the coals and his clients were underperforming. This system minimizes risk for owners and he does not like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 His advantage is also the player's advantage. People seem to think he has magical negotiating powers. That teams just fall under some spell and do whatever he wants them to do. Somehow fans see what he does but some of the most successful business people in America collapse at the sight of Boras and just do what he wants. The issue I see is those people that complain about Boras should appreciate and applaud Lebron James. He's the ultimate anti-Boras example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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