Is Ventura a good game manager?

[IlliniKrush]

No it's not completely stupid. Robin Ventura knows more about baseball than you or me. To think he would send Rios in that situation is the stupid thing. The runner on first didn't move. I don't know, maybe they have a signal for the 3rd base coach that says, runner on 2nd, you steal, runner on first, hold your ground.

It's absolutely stupid to assume there's a greater possibility he went on his own/missed a sign than being told to steal. Of course it's stupid to send him there, doesn't mean he didn't do it. We actually have to assume he was sent until we hear otherwise, as the manager makes the call on those things.

 

Great move there, Dick. RV knows more about baseball! OK, can't question anything ever. Let's close down the message board.

 

Here's the problem, that doesn't mean because you played the game you make the right move every time. He proved that last year on numerous occasions.

 

Also, wasn't he runner on first yesterday Konerko? No s*** he didn't run, he would have been thrown out lefthanded. Use your head before you talk about the runner on first not moving.

[Dick Allen]

It's absolutely stupid to assume there's a greater possibility he went on his own/missed a sign than being told to steal. Of course it's stupid to send him there, doesn't mean he didn't do it. We actually have to assume he was sent until we hear otherwise, as the manager makes the call on those things.

 

Great move there, Dick. RV knows more about baseball! OK, can't question anything ever. Let's close down the message board.

 

Here's the problem, that doesn't mean because you played the game you make the right move every time. He proved that last year on numerous occasions.

 

Also, wasn't he runner on first yesterday Konerko? No s*** he didn't run, he would have been thrown out lefthanded. Use your head before you talk about the runner on first not moving.

Just use your head. Both runners would have been moving if a steal was called, unless Konerko missed the sign.

 

Konerko could have got a huge lead and jump. If there ever was a time he could have easily made it to second, that would be the time, and with a LH hitter up, the throw will almost always go to 3rd.

 

The odds greatly favor Rios either misreading a sign or making the attempt on his own. But you want to complain about the manager, so you ignore logic.

[IlliniKrush]

Just use your head. Both runners would have been moving if a steal was called, unless Konerko missed the sign.

 

Konerko could have got a huge lead and jump. If there ever was a time he could have easily made it to second, that would be the time, and with a LH hitter up, the throw will almost always go to 3rd.

 

The odds greatly favor Rios either misreading a sign or making the attempt on his own. But you want to complain about the manager, so you ignore logic.

Wow, baseball stupidity here. No, Konerko wouldn't have been moving as it's a guaranteed out, throw would have went to 2nd base. With 2 outs, you're taking the guaranteed out.

 

The odds are not with him missing a sign, as during the course of a baseball game, the vast majority of things happen because a sign was on. So the burden of proof lies elsewhere.

[pettie4sox]

Thats what he does, a lot, why are you mad at a guy for doing something he has based his entire career on. Either strikeout or hit a HR.

 

I was being sarcastic and trying to lighten the mood. People are getting way to antsy.

[Steve9347]

Just use your head. Both runners would have been moving if a steal was called, unless Konerko missed the sign.

 

Konerko could have got a huge lead and jump. If there ever was a time he could have easily made it to second, that would be the time, and with a LH hitter up, the throw will almost always go to 3rd.

 

The odds greatly favor Rios either misreading a sign or making the attempt on his own. But you want to complain about the manager, so you ignore logic.

There's just absolutely no reason for Rios or Robin to have him running there. But honestly, who cares, every loss is a step closer to a difference-making draft pick.

[IlliniKrush]

There's just absolutely no reason for Rios or Robin to have him running there. But honestly, who cares, every loss is a step closer to a difference-making draft pick.

Fans don't care about difference-making draft picks!

[LittleHurt05]

There's just absolutely no reason for Rios or Robin to have him running there. But honestly, who cares, every loss is a step closer to a difference-making draft pick.

 

Sweet. Then we can become like the Pirates & Royals and all of their difference-making draft picks over the past 25 years!

[Steve9347]

Fans don't care about difference-making draft picks!

You could put Dick Allen the poster at Soxtalk out there instead of Adam Dunn and there'd be a better chance I'd want to go to a game. Dunn is a deal-breaker at this point. It's obviously unfortunate given his signing was a ballsy move for the club, but teams have stopped playing better players than Dunn despite contracts that are worse.

[Steve9347]

Sweet. Then we can become like the Pirates & Royals and all of their difference-making draft picks over the past 25 years!

The difference? We consistently have a high payroll. You need a foundation, then you pay around that foundation. Maybe if either franchise kept their talent when it got to the point of being paid they wouldn't be on such long droughts.

[southsider2k5]

The difference? We consistently have a high payroll. You need a foundation, then you pay around that foundation. Maybe if either franchise kept their talent when it got to the point of being paid they wouldn't be on such long droughts.

 

The reason that we have been able to keep most of our talent is because we haven't been driving fans away with rebuilds.

[Steve9347]

The reason that we have been able to keep most of our talent is because we haven't been driving fans away with rebuilds.

WTF are you talking about? You're acting like the White Sox attendance has been rocking.

[southsider2k5]

WTF are you talking about? You're acting like the White Sox attendance has been rocking.

 

You are acting like there is no more downside to be had.

[Steve9347]

You are acting like there is no more downside to be had.

Listen, we can all see where this team is headed. Anyone with a f***ing brain in their head can see that there's very little on the offensive side and absolutely no upside. These players are all terrible, save two who should be moved for prospects if possible. Honestly, this offense looks worse than 2007.

[LittleHurt05]

The difference? We consistently have a high payroll. You need a foundation, then you pay around that foundation. Maybe if either franchise kept their talent when it got to the point of being paid they wouldn't be on such long droughts.

 

Who are all these difference-making draft picks that the Royals & Pirates lost that kept them from making the playoffs?

[Marty34]

Who are all these difference-making draft picks that the Royals & Pirates lost that kept them from making the playoffs?

 

Teams that the Sox are clearly better than in AL? Astros and Mariners (not-so clear).

[Steve9347]

Who are all these difference-making draft picks that the Royals & Pirates lost that kept them from making the playoffs?

You're missing the point entirely. With our "studs" we still suck. When trying to hit big on prospects, it pays to have more opportunities. Keeping Konerko and Rios around here is in no way going to lead to a World Series Championship.

 

Unless - you think it will?

[LittleHurt05]

You're missing the point entirely. With our "studs" we still suck. When trying to hit big on prospects, it pays to have more opportunities. Keeping Konerko and Rios around here is in no way going to lead to a World Series Championship.

 

Unless - you think it will?

 

It's April 22 and the division looks as s***ty as ever, so the playoffs are attainable. No reason to sell all the pieces today for opportunities at prospects that might not hit. If they are out of it in July, then that's a different story.

[Steve9347]

It's April 22 and the division looks as s***ty as ever, so the playoffs are attainable. No reason to sell all the pieces today for opportunities at prospects that might not hit. If they are out of it in July, then that's a different story.

Ha! The playoffs are NOT attainable for the 2013 Chicago White Sox. Get real.

[southsider2k5]

Listen, we can all see where this team is headed. Anyone with a f***ing brain in their head can see that there's very little on the offensive side and absolutely no upside. These players are all terrible, save two who should be moved for prospects if possible. Honestly, this offense looks worse than 2007.

 

Yes, we are going to hit like this for the rest of the year. This has drama queen written all over it. No upside for a team hitting .232 with a .170 mark with RISP? This has to be a joke.

[Marty34]

Yes, we are going to hit like this for the rest of the year. This has drama queen written all over it. No upside for a team hitting .232 with a .170 mark with RISP? This has to be a joke.

 

And the bullpen will keep a 2.22 era and Quintana, Peavy and Sale will continue to dominate.

[Balta1701]

And the bullpen will keep a 2.22 era and Quintana, Peavy and Sale will continue to dominate.

Sale has been dominant?

[Steve9347]

Yes, we are going to hit like this for the rest of the year. This has drama queen written all over it. No upside for a team hitting .232 with a .170 mark with RISP? This has to be a joke.

So tell me the players on the roster you expect to perform better?

[Marty34]

Sale has been dominant?

 

3 out of 4 starts.

[Balta1701]

3 out of 4 starts.

So Chris Sale can't possibly keep up a rate of 3 good starts out of 4?

 

Yeah, that'll never happen.

[pettie4sox]

Sale has had 3 quality starts. Look for the offense to get better when Beckham and Viciedo return. If Ventura can shake up the lineup, they'll score runs.