Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 11:53 AM) With no photos out, the smart thing would have been to stay put, go about your life like nothing happened and not draw suspicion to yourself. Let them waste time checking airports, interstates and train stations. Once the pics came out, all bets are off. Uh what? The smart thing to do would have been to immediately leave the country and never look back. Why would any suspicion be drawn to 2 people who were legally in the US, with no prior criminal history, who werent even considered suspects to start? When those 2 track kids were being arrested, these guys could have walked into any police station in America and no one would have even blinked. They had no heat and this is not the sort of crime that authorities were just going to raise their hands up after a few days and go "Well we give up." Every second that passed was a second closer to them being caught. Any other belief on their part was absolute delusion. These guys could have gotten out of the country but for their own stupidity. How scary is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Well what was it the dad said? Something like "if something happens to my other son, there's going to be hell to pay," right? And he has a military background in Chechen, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Strangesox, I dont know I cant make bombs. I do own an anarchist cookbook and it does tell you how to make pipe bombs, but once again, this was the FBI/Police who said that these bombs require training and it would not just be some random people. That was their original profile, Im not an expert, Im just asking what changed. And I also clearly stated that the police could be lying and that these could be easy to create. But how would I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:01 PM) Well what was it the dad said? Something like "if something happens to my other son, there's going to be hell to pay," right? And he has a military background in Chechen, right? I got news for you, your son is probably going to kill himself once he realizes he has no way out. But let us be concerned about saving him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 11:59 AM) Uh what? The smart thing to do would have been to immediately leave the country and never look back. Why would any suspicion be drawn to 2 people who were legally in the US, with no prior criminal history, who werent even considered suspects to start? When those 2 track kids were being arrested, these guys could have walked into any police station in America and no one would have even blinked. They had no heat and this is not the sort of crime that authorities were just going to raise their hands up after a few days and go "Well we give up." Every second that passed was a second closer to them being caught. Any other belief on their part was absolute delusion. These guys could have gotten out of the country but for their own stupidity. How scary is that. I guess they could have tried to get teaching jobs at Columbia and blend in with the other bombers. FYI, I heard a FBI Counter Terrorism guy on WBBM this morning saying just what i typed above. Since they were in no way a suspect before the pictures came out, unless they were able to get gone in the first 5 minutes, the smart thing was to go back to life as they knew it, not raising any suspicions. Not something I pulled outta my ass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) I got news for you, your son is probably going to kill himself once he realizes he has no way out. But let us be concerned about saving him. I was mostly working on Badger's thoughts. If he doesn't kill himself and fights back, the police are going to kill him anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:15 PM) I was mostly working on Badger's thoughts. If he doesn't kill himself and fights back, the police are going to kill him anyways. It's tough to imagine a situation in which he doesn't die at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Right because the FBI is going to give criminals good tips on how to escape. They have no vested interest in telling criminals how to get caught. Really? Its like saying: "The police told me if I confessed that they would be nice." You can believe what you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:01 PM) Strangesox, I dont know I cant make bombs. I do own an anarchist cookbook and it does tell you how to make pipe bombs, but once again, this was the FBI/Police who said that these bombs require training and it would not just be some random people. That was their original profile, Im not an expert, Im just asking what changed. And I also clearly stated that the police could be lying and that these could be easy to create. But how would I know? I'm sure if you wanted to you could figure out how to build some bombs pretty easily. Spark + Fuel = Boom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Alpha Dog @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:14 PM) I guess they could have tried to get teaching jobs at Columbia and blend in with the other bombers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Tonight's game at Fenway postponed. Can't imagine the Bruins game won't also get postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:29 PM) Tonight's game at Fenway postponed. Can't imagine the Bruins game won't also get postponed. All of Boston is postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 All of Boston is postponed. They did just announce that people who are at work or some other place of business are allowed to go home, but they don't want people already at home leaving to go anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxsoxsoxsox Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 12:30 PM) All of Boston is postponed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Their aunt is crazy. Basically said she thinks they were set up or the pictures/video was set up. This gets weirder by the hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:08 PM) Their aunt is crazy. Basically said she thinks they were set up or the pictures/video was set up. This gets weirder by the hour. Is she the wife of the uncle that says they deserve to die? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:08 PM) Their aunt is crazy. Basically said she thinks they were set up or the pictures/video was set up. This gets weirder by the hour. I'd imagine there's a strong psychological denial urge at play there. Would you believe it right away if one of your family members was named the suspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:09 PM) Is she the wife of the uncle that says they deserve to die? I don't think so as she was in Toronto. QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:11 PM) I'd imagine there's a strong psychological denial urge at play there. Would you believe it right away if one of your family members was named the suspect? Maybe not initially when photos were out, but after they rob a convenience store, kill a cop, get in a shootout, take a car, throw explosives at cops, and have explosives on them when found dead, and still running away...then yes, I think I would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 With so many cameras during the Boston Marathon, you just knew the criminals weren't going to get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:14 PM) I don't think so as she was in Toronto. ah ok. I didnt see where she was from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 @WillBrinson 4m .@CBSNews reporting older brother Tamerlan placed phone call to uncle last night and apologized, asked for forgiveness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 01:14 PM) Maybe not initially when photos were out, but after they rob a convenience store, kill a cop, get in a shootout, take a car, throw explosives at cops, and have explosives on them when found dead, and still running away...then yes, I think I would. of course, any right minded person would accept reality at this point. but the people we are talking about here are loons. just like the bombers themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 @aellick spoke to few of jahan's HS pals here in #cambridge. noone has clue where this came from. they hung w/him over this past winter break. @aellick one said he was "so assimilated, so american, so normal. We didnt see him as a foreign kid. Just another kid in the #Cambridge community." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 I'm still trying to come up with a motive here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 Cops are looking for a possible suspect vehicle...who knows if it's just a car he/his brother owns or if they think he's on the road now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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