IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:42 PM) Can you imagine the feelings of a father who had kids that perpetrated a crime like this? And seeing how these two apparently had some very strong anti US feelings, I am willing to place a strong bet that the apple doesnt fall far from the tree. In short, I dont expect their dad to say anything remotely sane We're obviously not in his shoes. But at least the uncle was sane. Saying someone's a coward when your son was shooting at them is just stupid. Although they may not have killed him, who knows, may have died from being run over by his own brother. Also, this whole "hell to pay" thing, right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:45 PM) Maybe they were hopped up on bath salts. but, they werent eating faces Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 The natural reaction is denial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model Anything else by the father would generally be considered not normal behavior. Even with insurmountable facts, denial makes sense. "This cant be true" "There must be some other explanation" Those are natural reactions. People are just jumping to conclusions like its nothing. Which is so hilarious given the fact that 3 days ago everyone was jumping to conclusions about 2 other suspects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:55 PM) The natural reaction is denial. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCbler-Ross_model Anything else by the father would generally be considered not normal behavior. Even with insurmountable facts, denial makes sense. "This cant be true" "There must be some other explanation" Those are natural reactions. People are just jumping to conclusions like its nothing. Which is so hilarious given the fact that 3 days ago everyone was jumping to conclusions about 2 other suspects. Where does "threatening more harm" come into play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:58 PM) Where does "threatening more harm" come into play? The father isn't going to be thinking rationally in a situation like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:45 PM) We're obviously not in his shoes. But at least the uncle was sane. Saying someone's a coward when your son was shooting at them is just stupid. Although they may not have killed him, who knows, may have died from being run over by his own brother. Also, this whole "hell to pay" thing, right. the whole family is a bunch of loons. i have seen some of their interviews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 03:58 PM) Where does "threatening more harm" come into play? Did you even read the link? 1. Denial 2. Anger 3. Bargaining The guy is basically the poster child for how people deal with extreme tragedy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 Seven IEDs have been recovered so far, some in Watertown and some at the house in Cambridge, police officials tell @NBCNews — @RockCenterNBC Well, that seems like a good reason for the city to have mostly shut down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigSqwert Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 02:00 PM) the whole family is a bunch of loons. i have seen some of their interviews. Are you a distant cousin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:00 PM) the whole family is a bunch of loons. i have seen some of their interviews. Yeah the uncle is a real loon. His nephews may have committed a terrible atrocity and the guy is brave enough to go on tv and call them out, try and get them to stop. /rolls eyes Im sure that if your nephews did something like this, youd be the model of normal. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:03 PM) Yeah the uncle is a real loon. His nephews may have committed a terrible atrocity and the guy is brave enough to go on tv and call them out, try and get them to stop. /rolls eyes Im sure that if your nephews did something like this, youd be the model of normal. lol the uncle appears to have a pre-existing beef with this side of his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) the uncle appears to have a pre-existing beef with this side of his family. Right, but how does that make him a "loon" Many people have family problems, many brothers fight and dont talk. That doesnt make them lunatics. It makes them people. If you are going to attack someones sanity, you should at least have some example of insane behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) The guy is basically the poster child for how people deal with extreme tragedy. not really. the family members of a person who just committed mass killings usually offer condolences to the victims. these hot heads are out blaming everyone else and coming up with wild conspiracy theories. Edited April 19, 2013 by mr_genius Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 What happens when they get 100% done with Watertown and don't have him...I'm really surprised he's lasted this long without capture. I guess it's possible if he was wounded that he's bled to death somewhere. Or even just killed himself. You also have to think about the fact that he needs food and sleep too, he's probably been up for almost a day and a half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) not really. the family members of a person who just committed mass killings usually offer condolences to the victims. these hot heads are out blaming everyone else and coming up with wild conspiracy theories. Um. Not the uncle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (mr_genius @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:06 PM) not really. the family members of a person who just committed mass killings usually offer condolences to the victims. these hot heads are out blaming everyone else and coming up with wild conspiracy theories. lol You just are throwing nonsense at the wall and hoping it sticks. You have no evidence, just your anecdotal opinion. On the other side we have a well established psychological reaction to extreme loss/trauma. You crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 05:07 PM) What happens when they get 100% done with Watertown and don't have him...I'm really surprised he's lasted this long without capture. I guess it's possible if he was wounded that he's bled to death somewhere. Or even just killed himself. You also have to think about the fact that he needs food and sleep too, he's probably been up for almost a day and a half. How do you actually become 100% done with searching a city of 30,000+ inhabitants? Serious Q...even if everything is shut down, it's always possible to find places to hide. But really, the answer is, the net will get wider with time, there's a decent chance he's already found a way to flee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:07 PM) Um. Not the uncle? Which is the one he called a "loon" So the uncle is a loon for calling his nephews out and apologizing? Its why hes good for a laugh, he contradicts himself by the time you are done with the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) lol You just are throwing nonsense at the wall and hoping it sticks. You have no evidence, just your anecdotal opinion. On the other side we have a well established psychological reaction to extreme loss/trauma. You crack me up. There's really no point arguing an obvious fact. People don't need to be linked to wikipedia to know that the family of two people who did something like this would/could have varying degrees of denial/acceptance/anger. There's no point in arguing an obvious fact. Anyone who doesn't understand is either just trying to get you to argue or just incredibly stupid. Edited April 19, 2013 by Steve9347 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:07 PM) Um. Not the uncle? he said he disowned the loon side of the family and didn't talk to them. that might be a lie though. you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:09 PM) You have no evidence, just your anecdotal opinion. hey man, i'm just posting about the comments I have heard the family say: Aunt - says it's all a big conspiracy theory Sister - Says the cops are murders Dad - vows to get revenge to me, these are loons. maybe you disagree, and that is fine Soxbadger. you are free to disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:10 PM) How do you actually become 100% done with searching a city of 30,000+ inhabitants? Serious Q...even if everything is shut down, it's always possible to find places to hide. But really, the answer is, the net will get wider with time, there's a decent chance he's already found a way to flee. Yeah I don't know, just saw they said like 70% done a couple hours ago. I don't know where you hide in times like this, but I could see it turning into a hostage situation. Overall I'm just surprised it's gone on this long. I thought I would have woken up to him dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 (edited) "confirmed white hat" on scanner Hopefully not yet another false alarm Edited April 19, 2013 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 05:18 PM) "confirmed white hat" on scanner Hopefully not yet another false alarm Is that a code for something, or is anyone in Boston wearing a white hat now a suspect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_genius Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 19, 2013 -> 04:19 PM) Is that a code for something, or is anyone in Boston wearing a white hat now a suspect? it's probably the suspects code name with the police, Balta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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