southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:49 PM) This is no different than Bulls fans wanting Rip Hamilton to play poorly so Jimmy Butler can get more minutes at the shooting guard to see if he can develop into a starting shooting guard in the future. To me, Axelrod is blocking the development of a much more talented performer. You are right, it is no different. Active rooting for failure is amongst the dumbest things to be hoping for in sports, no matter what sport it is. We aren't even talking about tanking in September for a draft pick or something. We are talking about having a prospect fail, so another prospect can step in? Quit watching. Seriously, just find another hobby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:47 PM) Still. It makes zero sense to be rooting for someone to fail in April. In all seriousness, if people really believe crap like that, they need to quit watching baseball. Just walk away, because you are missing the entire point. Mark this date. I agree with 2k5. I can totally get with fathom's thinking in August and you're 10 games out. Way too early for rooting for anybody to fail right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:49 PM) Observing that a below average pitcher is below average isn't negative. It's being realistic. Observation isn't wanting them to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:13 PM) Yes. We should root for bad things to happen to the team... in April. What? How is a win rooting for bad things to happen? We all presumably want Santiago in the rotation, that's a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Do people really believe the White Sox have no idea Axelrod is lacking in the talent department? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:51 AM) You are right, it is no different. Active rooting for failure is amongst the dumbest things to be hoping for in sports, no matter what sport it is. We aren't even talking about tanking in September for a draft pick or something. We are talking about having a prospect fail, so another prospect can step in? Quit watching. Seriously, just find another hobby. You might be the first person to ever refer to Axelrod as a prospect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:52 PM) How is a win rooting for bad things to happen? We all presumably want Santiago in the rotation, that's a good thing. How do you know Santiago in the rotation is a good thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 2 stats for you to ponder... 13 for 84 with RISP "Cleanup" hitter is currently at .122 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:52 PM) Do people really believe the White Sox have no idea Axelrod is lacking in the talent department? Why not? They have no idea Dunn isn't a cleanup hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:51 PM) You are right, it is no different. Active rooting for failure is amongst the dumbest things to be hoping for in sports, no matter what sport it is. We aren't even talking about tanking in September for a draft pick or something. We are talking about having a prospect fail, so another prospect can step in? Quit watching. Seriously, just find another hobby. Axelrod isn't a prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:52 PM) How is a win rooting for bad things to happen? We all presumably want Santiago in the rotation, that's a good thing. A pitcher giving up 10 runs is a good thing? I must live in a bizzaro-world apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I dont like Axelrod...but there is no way I'm going to root for him to get blasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:53 PM) 2 stats for you to ponder... 13 for 84 with RISP "Cleanup" hitter is currently at .122 Winning baseball 101. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:53 PM) You might be the first person to ever refer to Axelrod as a prospect Even if his ceiling is fifth starter in baseball, that has some value in this day and age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:55 PM) A pitcher giving up 10 runs is a good thing? I must live in a bizzaro-world apparently. In which the team wins and a better, more capable player takes his place. Yes. How can sports really be this black and white to you? I think you need a new hobby, turn off the TV and watch golf or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capn12 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 How come the pitches being called, seem like they actually make sense so far, for Axelrod? Totally different, and he is keeping the pitch count down too, to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:56 AM) Even if his ceiling is fifth starter in baseball, that has some value in this day and age. Of course he'll probably pitch well tonight I get what you're saying with this comment, but I just feel in my opinion there's more value this year in seeing what Santiago can do as a starter and getting him innings so he's not too limited next year when he's much more likely to be in the rotation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well, 1/4 with RISP improves our BA but didn't score a run because of Konerko's lack of speed, haha. Wonder if we've ever lost 2 consecutive games to starters with ERA's over 10? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (Capn12 @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:57 AM) How come the pitches being called, seem like they actually make sense so far, for Axelrod? Totally different, and he is keeping the pitch count down too, to boot. Check out Gimenez catching ERA compared to Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paint it Black Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:56 PM) Even if his ceiling is fifth starter in baseball, that has some value in this day and age. I'm not high on Santiago myself, but at least his ceiling is higher than a 5. It's real simple, who is the better player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:58 PM) Check out Gimenez catching ERA compared to Flowers. Do you mind posting it fathom? Very interested in the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I'd be willing to bet that Angels fans were hoping Abreu would suck last year so Trout could get promoted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 06:58 PM) Well, 1/4 with RISP improves our BA but didn't score a run because of Konerko's lack of speed, haha. Wonder if we've ever lost 2 consecutive games to starters with ERA's over 10? Cy (insert name) many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Apr 17, 2013 -> 12:59 AM) Do you mind posting it fathom? Very interested in the numbers. Don't have numbers in front of me, but Gimenez caught Quintana's gem and also caught Axelrod's first start vs Seattle that was good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 16, 2013 -> 07:58 PM) Check out Gimenez catching ERA compared to Flowers. Wait, are you wanting Flowers to fail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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