greg775 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 2, 2013 -> 12:27 PM) So glad Walker is gone now he can ruin the Braves young prospects. Walker may suck in your opinion, but our current hitting coach isn't exactly working wonders. True, the talent is sketchy, but still... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 Greg, have you joined Dick Allen's "Greg Walker Fan Club"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 6, 2013 -> 04:29 AM) Greg, have you joined Dick Allen's "Greg Walker Fan Club"? No, but I never minded Walker. You know what might make the future interesting on the South Side? LaRussa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 6, 2013 Author Share Posted May 6, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ May 6, 2013 -> 12:56 AM) No, but I never minded Walker. You know what might make the future interesting on the South Side? LaRussa. They would have to give him complete control. And, at his age, not sure if he'd have the patience for a 3-5 year project. It would be one of the biggest, if not THE biggest, contracts for a GM in the majors. Would JR be willing to completely change the way he's done things in order to please someone who might "pull a Piniella" and just walk away? Would that be the official end of the Harrelson broadcasting era? One would think so. Not to mention the fact that it wouldn't be entirely fair to Hahn after waiting all this time. That said, Hahn's going to find himself in a box, where the "taint" of his past association with KW is going to make it a bit hard to establish his own identity. Edited May 6, 2013 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
max power Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Kenny Williams smelly taint is to blame. You heard it here first, on soxtalk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Bad players play badly. Things would be no different under Walker. Fire him anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Christopher Kamka @ckamka 8m #WhiteSox bullpen last 7 games: 23 IP, 35 hits, 19 ER, 18 BB, 7.43 ERA, 7.0 BB/9IP, 2.30 WHIP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 I'll tell you how bad it is: I seriously found myself looking forward to Beckham's bat being back in the lineup. Christ.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 As I said when everyone wanted to blame Walker for the Sox not scoring runs, if you want a better offense, you better get better hitters. If one guy could make .230 guys with .600 OPS, .300 guys with .900 OPS, their contracts would be bigger than ARod's. A coach does make a difference, but not to the degree many around here seem to think. You could bring the greatest track coach of all time in, it isn't going to make Paulie faster, and it doesn't make him a crappy coach because Paulie didn't get faster. The same applies to hitters. There are limits. People need to get off the notion that one guy makes that much difference. That one guy is going to ruin an entire team offensively. One thing to keep in mind, there are several guys who pay no attention to the hitting coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 8, 2013 -> 06:47 AM) As I said when everyone wanted to blame Walker for the Sox not scoring runs, if you want a better offense, you better get better hitters. If one guy could make .230 guys with .600 OPS, .300 guys with .900 OPS, their contracts would be bigger than ARod's. A coach does make a difference, but not to the degree many around here seem to think. You could bring the greatest track coach of all time in, it isn't going to make Paulie faster, and it doesn't make him a crappy coach because Paulie didn't get faster. The same applies to hitters. There are limits. People need to get off the notion that one guy makes that much difference. That one guy is going to ruin an entire team offensively. One thing to keep in mind, there are several guys who pay no attention to the hitting coach. This I know to be true after a discussion I had once with Butch Hobson, a former player and hitting coach. For me, blaming the hitting coach is a form of scapegoating and I'm as guilty as anyone. You want someone to blame, simple as that. It's red meat. I just can't believe how long this slump has endured. People are turning on Rios for his recent woes, but I have to wonder how many good pitches he sees anymore now that teams know he's one of the few capable of doing damage in this lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 Braves lead the NL in strikeouts slowly but surely he will rub off and decline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 8, 2013 -> 03:36 PM) Braves lead the NL in strikeouts slowly but surely he will rub off and decline. no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 8, 2013 Share Posted May 8, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2013 -> 02:42 AM) Words/phrases like "pathetic," "fluke/flake" (for Gillaspie), "we all learned this in Little League," etc. Essentially, your last post is saying they've basically been average for much of the time period since 2005 (minus 2006 and 2008, when they were clearly above average, as well as 2010 and 2012). If a team is usually between 78-84 wins every year, the argument is there's no need to exaggerate or use hyperbole to stress your points...that things are not QUITE so dramatic or as dire as they may seem. Yes, all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 QUOTE (Andrew @ May 2, 2013 -> 12:30 AM) *Edit - It occurs to me that you don't know what it means to say someone's statements are "hyperbolic". In fact, I'm 100% sure you have no idea what it means. Where did this asshole come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ May 9, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) Where did this asshole come from? In reference to that quote alone, I would expect that comment from a handful of people here. Lots of snarky assholes on this board. Edited May 9, 2013 by Chilihead90 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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