Reed hits AJ

[southsider2k5]

Look at all these people, all the sudden hating AJ because he wears a different uniform. Flip the script and a Rangers pitcher hits AJ in his first AB vs. w/ the Sox against the Rangers, and a lot of these Sox fans wouldn't be calling AJ an asshole for chirping.

 

It was a good situation to a hit a guy, and it could make a lot of sense if AJ and Reed didn't get along for whatever reason, I don't blame AJ for chirping, we don't know their history.

 

That's the thing. You can appreciate AJ's contribution as a player, and still understand how a teammate could hate him for being a major dick.

[southsider2k5]

White Sox are totally classless. There was no legit reason to throw at AJ there. And the meatheads love it because they never appreciated AJ when he was here. No AJ, no White Sox World Series.

 

AJ is better off with a real contender and the Sox are stuck with Flowers who not only can't hit but doesn't handle the pitching staff as well as AJ did and hasn't been any better throwing runners out. I'd say AJ gets the last laugh and the Sox just showed why they are the pathetic losers they have become.

 

You have zero idea here. This is something you have to be in the clubhouse to be qualified to comment on.

[southsider2k5]

But I'm sure the players didn't have an issue with Thome haha.

 

Can't deny AJ is an asshole, hell even the other "Sox Legend" up in the booth was laughing at it. He wasn't trying to scorch the Earth and you know he can at the drop of a hat haha

 

And that is a great point. If there was a way to protect his little buddy AJ, Hawk would have. He kept laughing about it and saying "Boy AJ is always in the middle of something". He probably knew it was coming, and he definitely knows why it happened.

[southsider2k5]

Reed was a Sox fan growing up? Interesting.

 

Exactly what Addison should be saying to the press. No need to be stupid and get suspended.

[pettie4sox]

The whole thing made me LOL. We won yesterday.

 

"IT'S ALLLLLLL GOOODDDD!"

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Reed didn't throw at AJ. It was up and in a tad but AJ stuck his elbow pad out and took it to get on base. Moving on.

 

I just saw the replay and that's what I came away with as well. It wasn't even the first pitch of the at bat and the pitch wasn't THAT far inside. It would have been a lot more suspicious if he drilled him right in the body. AJ's elbow is awfully close to the plate there. Unless someone who actually knows says differently, I think this was just a simply HBP and nothing more.

[Dick Allen]

You have zero idea here. This is something you have to be in the clubhouse to be qualified to comment on.

Yet you are commenting that he was definitely hit on purpose and said he wasn't re-signed because everyone hates him. How many times did he re-sign with the White Sox?

 

I don't know if he was trying to hit him on purpose or not. I do know AJ stuck his pad right into the pitch. Everybody wins.

 

This notion that no one can stand AJ is legendary. However, you would think a beat writer or someone, considering EVERYONE HATES AJ would come up with a laundry list of the hatred.

Edited May 2, 2013 by Dick Allen

[southsider2k5]

Yet you are commenting that he was definitely hit on purpose and said he wasn't re-signed because everyone hates him. How many times did he re-sign with the White Sox?

 

Listen to what people are saying. His buddy Hawk couldn't even defend it. That right there is enough for me. Though I am sure he will go on the air tonight and have his speech prepared.

[Dick Allen]

Listen to what people are saying. His buddy Hawk couldn't even defend it. That right there is enough for me. Though I am sure he will go on the air tonight and have his speech prepared.

Hawk said AJ was drilled because Dunn was drilled yesterday. Did you not see AJ stick his elbow out to get hit? He could have easily avoided it, but the Rangers needed baserunners and it adds to the drama surrounding AJ.

 

I really don't think White Sox players hate AJ as much as some think. I'm sure some do, but not nearly the entire team.

Edited May 2, 2013 by Dick Allen

[southsider2k5]

Hawk said AJ was drilled because Dunn was drilled yesterday. Did you not see AJ stick his elbow out to get hit?

 

And it just happened to be AJ, a day later, in the ninth inning of a game he wasn't even supposed to be playing in? lol. OK.

[Dick Allen]

And it just happened to be AJ, a day later, in the ninth inning of a game he wasn't even supposed to be playing in? lol. OK.

Yes. 2 outs in the 9th inning with a 3 run lead.

 

If AJ was the hated bad teammate people WANT him to be, the White Sox wouldn't have kept him around for 8 years, and signed him to 2 or 3 or 4 contracts.

 

And again, AJ went out of his way to get hit.

Edited May 2, 2013 by Dick Allen

[southsider2k5]

Yes. 2 outs in the 9th inning with a 3 run lead.

 

If AJ was the hated bad teammate people WANT him to be, the White Sox wouldn't have kept him around for 8 years, and signed him to 2 or 3 or 4 contracts.

I forgot you are AJ's guy. I'm stepping out.

[witesoxfan]

White Sox are totally classless. There was no legit reason to throw at AJ there. And the meatheads love it because they never appreciated AJ when he was here. No AJ, no White Sox World Series.

 

AJ is better off with a real contender and the Sox are stuck with Flowers who not only can't hit but doesn't handle the pitching staff as well as AJ did and hasn't been any better throwing runners out. I'd say AJ gets the last laugh and the Sox just showed why they are the pathetic losers they have become.

 

Good f***ing god, where to start?

 

White Sox are totally classless.

Then as a fan, you are also classless. Why else would you root for a classless organization?

 

There was no legit reason to throw at AJ there.

And you don't know that Reed actually threw at him. I'm sure he did - to protect Dunn and because it's AJ is basically their equivalent to Dunn right now, so it makes sense. Perhaps he just wanted to send a message and AJ stuck his elbow into it.

 

And the meatheads love it because they never appreciated AJ when he was here.

And you love parroting the idea that nobody ever liked AJ. Quit acting like he's your son. AJ will be loved and appreciated in this town his whole life. He's a jerk, but he was a key factor in the Sox winning a World Series. The fact that you don't believe that White Sox fans appreciated AJ shows your true depth of knowledge as a fan of the White Sox that you can't look past the brim of your own glasses and see exactly how MUCH AJ was appreciated.

 

No AJ, no White Sox World Series.

No Paul Konerko, no White Sox World Series. No Juan Uribe, no White Sox World Series. No Tadahito Iguchi, no White Sox World Series. See what I'm getting at here, or do you want me to keep going? You make a broad, sweeping argument that "if no AJ, no World Series" without taking into context any other details. There were a lot of things that fell into place that year, and if you take any one of them out, that team almost certainly does not win the World Series. AJ didn't hit 80 homers and throw 15 no hitters, so let's not act like he was the only reason that team won the World Series.

 

and the Sox are stuck with Flowers who not only can't hit

Cutting the rope 1 month into his career as a starter. Glad we did that with AJ after he put up a .269/.329/.358/.687 line in April.

 

but doesn't handle the pitching staff as well as AJ did

This is baseless, useless conjecture. The Sox, with injuries up and down the pitching staff, have the 5 best ERA in the AL right now. I don't know how else you're going to quantify "handling a pitching staff" so I'd say Flowers is doing just fine. Of course, because he doesn't step on people's backs and yell and scream and have the name Pierzynski on his back, he's obviously mishandled them.

 

and hasn't been any better throwing runners out.

Again, these conclusions after one month. He was at 33% last year and has had all of 19 attempted steals against him this year.

 

I'd say AJ gets the last laugh and the Sox just showed why they are the pathetic losers they have become.

Because rather than keep an aging veteran who won't be in the league 2-3 years from now as anything more than a backup, they wanted to insert a guy who could be here for 1 year or 10 years to see how he handles the duty while they are in a transitional phase between generations of players. It'd be mildly surprising if they brought back Konerko this year too - are the White Sox going to be pathetic losers for letting him go too?

 

AJ is better off with a real contender

Glad your son is doing well

 

 

[witesoxfan]

Yes. 2 outs in the 9th inning with a 3 run lead.

 

If AJ was the hated bad teammate people WANT him to be, the White Sox wouldn't have kept him around for 8 years, and signed him to 2 or 3 or 4 contracts.

 

And again, AJ went out of his way to get hit.

 

AJ was a good player and his TWTW is off the charts good. That far outweighed his PPAA (piss poor attitude attribute). He may be a jerk, but he is no where near Milton Bradley.

[Dick Allen]

The Rangers broadcast apparently was laughing about AJ sticking his elbow out to get hit. Then the drama, which we all know AJ seeks and works off of, began. Drilling AJ to show him how much he was disliked is a great story, but it's really about as real as reality TV.

[ptatc]

Hawk said AJ was drilled because Dunn was drilled yesterday. Did you not see AJ stick his elbow out to get hit? He could have easily avoided it, but the Rangers needed baserunners and it adds to the drama surrounding AJ.

 

I really don't think White Sox players hate AJ as much as some think. I'm sure some do, but not nearly the entire team.

Hawk always defends AJ as he has been friends with the family since AJ was in high school.

 

AJ was disliked by almost everyone. Hate is too strong of a word. They tolerated a good baseball player but didn't like him.

[hogan873]

I don't think AJ was drilled because he's AJ. He got drilled because he was up to bat when Reed decided to either throw at the batter or throw inside. If there truly was a retaliation in response to Dunn getting hit, then 2 outs in the ninth with a three run lead is a good time to do it. AJ just happened to be the batter.

 

And enough with the AJ is hated s***. He played for the Sox for eight seasons and was extended a couple times. There's no doubt that his teammates respected him. He might very well be a jerk, and the argument when he was on the Sox was that he was our jerk. Now he's the Rangers' jerk. Regardless, I am sure there are guys on the Sox right now that still respect him

[ptatc]

The Rangers broadcast apparently was laughing about AJ sticking his elbow out to get hit. Then the drama, which we all know AJ seeks and works off of, began. Drilling AJ to show him how much he was disliked is a great story, but it's really about as real as reality TV.

Agreed. I think only one who said he was hit on purpose was Hawk. Again just defending him.

[ptatc]

I don't think AJ was drilled because he's AJ. He got drilled because he was up to bat when Reed decided to either throw at the batter or throw inside. If there truly was a retaliation in response to Dunn getting hit, then 2 outs in the ninth with a three run lead is a good time to do it. AJ just happened to be the batter.

 

And enough with the AJ is hated s***. He played for the Sox for eight seasons and was extended a couple times. There's no doubt that his teammates respected him. He might very well be a jerk, and the argument when he was on the Sox was that he was our jerk. Now he's the Rangers' jerk. Regardless, I am sure there are guys on the Sox right now that still respect him

As a baseball player not as a person.

[hogan873]

Hawk always defends AJ as he has been friends with the family since AJ was in high school.

 

AJ was disliked by almost everyone. Hate is too strong of a word. They tolerated a good baseball player but didn't like him.

Do you know this? Have you talked to his teammeates? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm actually curious. We've all heard that he's a jerk, but I've not seen one White Sox player say anything but positive things about him.

[ptatc]

Do you know this? Have you talked to his teammeates? I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm actually curious. We've all heard that he's a jerk, but I've not seen one White Sox player say anything but positive things about him.

Yes I know this. I was working in the league when AJ was around and still have friends who work in baseball. I've never seen quotes from any player that were much better than neutral. It's usually like Reed said "i get along with him fine or I enjoyed throwing to him." I've never seen any say "what a great guy I really enjoy spending time with him."

 

Jon Garland was quoted during the 2005 season as saying "he's a jerk but he's our jerk" paraphrasing of course. Wasn't he voted as the most disliked player in baseball in some poll recently?

[witesoxfan]

Yes I know this. I was working in the league when AJ was around and still have friends who work in baseball. I've never seen quotes from any player that were much better than neutral. It's usually like Reed said "i get along with him fine or I enjoyed throwing to him." I've never seen any say "what a great guy I really enjoy spending time with him."

 

Jon Garland was quoted during the 2005 season as saying "he's a jerk but he's our jerk" paraphrasing of course. Wasn't he voted as the most disliked player in baseball in some poll recently?

 

He was voted as the most disliked player in baseball when Barry Bonds was still in the league

[Dick Allen]

Yes I know this. I was working in the league when AJ was around and still have friends who work in baseball. I've never seen quotes from any player that were much better than neutral. It's usually like Reed said "i get along with him fine or I enjoyed throwing to him." I've never seen any say "what a great guy I really enjoy spending time with him."

 

Jon Garland was quoted during the 2005 season as saying "he's a jerk but he's our jerk" paraphrasing of course. Wasn't he voted as the most disliked player in baseball in some poll recently?

Yes, but then there are quotes about guys who were concerned about playing with him saying he wasn't was his reputation made him out to be. I also read where he really mellowed when he became a father. Everything I read is that he eventually will get under your skin because he's pretty much non stop talking, trying to poke the lion. AJ loves pro wrestling, and has taken his role as the MLB villian and ran with it.

[ptatc]

Yes, but then there are quotes about guys who were concerned about playing with him saying he wasn't was his reputation made him out to be. I also read where he really mellowed when he became a father. Everything I read is that he eventually will get under your skin because he's pretty much non stop talking, trying to poke the lion. AJ loves pro wrestling, and has taken his role as the MLB villian and ran with it.

All of this is true. I love the way he plays. He cannot be knocked for his play. He did mellow as he got older. However, while he wasn't outright nasty to people as he was when younger, he was a "surly" person who people still disliked, not HATED, as portrayed.

[Hawkfan]

Why does everyone have to be a great guy? Whatever great guy means. I would imagine that half the players in baseball are not great guys, but jerks by most standards. Who gives a s***? AJ was awesome and loved by most sox fans, and now that we get to bean him it's hilarious, like tripping your best friend in front of a girl he likes. I wish more people were like AJ and didn't care about hurting someone's feelings so much. I'm all for being nice, but people are too sensitive these days. If that makes me a "meathead" fan, I'll take that over half the nerds on this site that have never played a game in their life.