Jake Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 There's all kinds of good in this organization. No need to fret. Also, Wells' slide was pure genius because it made it damn difficult to tell where the ball landed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 07:59 PM) Erik Johnson and Addison Reed are the two big stars so far this year, IMO Marcus Semien honorable mention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 So easy to make jokes about Ron Washington in that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Ball was fair what the hell is ump looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 3, 2013 -> 02:02 AM) There's all kinds of good in this organization. No need to fret. Also, Wells' slide was pure genius because it made it damn difficult to tell where the ball landed Like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (flavum @ May 3, 2013 -> 02:02 AM) Marcus Semien honorable mention? Absolutely, him and Beck would be next in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Professional at bat by kinsler there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 09:02 PM) So easy to make jokes about Ron Washington in that situation. White Lines (don't don't do it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:02 PM) Like? We can assume he meant philanthropic good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 06:59 PM) Erik Johnson and Addison Reed are the two big stars so far this year, IMO Coming soon...we need to trade Addison Reed because closers are easily replaceable. Non-contending teams don't need closers, etc. Hopefully it nets more than Nestor Molina, but they're in no position to make that kind of move anyway (and it would be 2 months away, and more likely in the offseason with Reed) is because the only other viable option stuff-wise is Nate Jones and he's been bad. It's one thing to trade Santos because you have Reed coming up behind him, but you don't want to make anyone else the closer unless you want the worst trainwreck in history on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Rotation looks about as good as one can look for the foreseeable future. Rios is a franchise player. Alexei is as solid as ever. Gillaspie looks like he can hold down the hot corner. We have money coming off the books this offseason to buy some quick improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:03 PM) Coming soon...we need to trade Addison Reed because closers are easily replaceable. Non-contending teams don't need closers, etc. Hopefully it nets more than Nestor Molina, but they're in no position to make that kind of move anyway (and it would be 2 months away, and more likely in the offseason with Reed) is because the only other viable option stuff-wise is Nate Jones and he's been bad. It's one thing to trade Santos because you have Reed coming up behind him, but you don't want to make anyone else the closer unless you want the worst trainwreck in history on your hands. Closers don't need stuff they to throw strikes and hit their spots. Not sure Sox have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 3, 2013 -> 01:06 AM) Closers don't need stuff they to throw strikes and hit their spots. Not sure Sox have that. Isn't that what Reed is? He's not overpowering, but he has 3 solid pitches (for a reliever) and has good command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Why wasn't Santiago starting all spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 2, 2013 -> 07:05 PM) Rotation looks about as good as one can look for the foreseeable future. Rios is a franchise player. Alexei is as solid as ever. Gillaspie looks like he can hold down the hot corner. We have money coming off the books this offseason to buy some quick improvements. Way too early on Gillaspie. To not be a platoon player, he has to prove he can hit lefties or Keppinger/Greene will eventually get those AB's. Rios is a franchise player nearing his mid 30's and will be declining soon. If he's the building block for the future, other than Sale/Quintana/Santiago, we're in deep deep trouble. While he's a VERY good player, he's not a superstar and the organization would be better off spending that money on developing younger players or using that playing time for prospects who are part of the future. Alexei is what he is...great or highlight reel, but sometimes erratic/brain cramp defense, and a 675-700ish OPS. Same issue with Rios as far as age and contract going in the wrong direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Casper no like big curveball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 That was an easy inning. Only this year would the Sox get forced to play a righty platoon player against a RHP due to injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 2, 2013 -> 07:06 PM) Closers don't need stuff they to throw strikes and hit their spots. Not sure Sox have that. Now we're going back to Keith Foulke days, the last "non-classic" closer for the Sox that led directly to Billy Botch and his diminishing/straight as an arrow FB that was once 100. Maybe Tom Gordon, if you want to include him. On the other hand, those guys like Doug Jones or Rod Beck without great stuff are always on the razor's margin getting saves. Give me Bobby Jenks late 2005 anytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 2, 2013 -> 07:11 PM) Casper no like big curveball Hence the 170+ K's in around 600 career AB's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 2, 2013 -> 07:08 PM) Why wasn't Santiago starting all spring? Because KW/Hahn were getting too clever for their own good and thinking they could get a significant return for Gavin at the ASB. After our early "offensive barrage," we've settled into the middle innings "blahs" again, like clockwork. Grimm's got a lot of talent, and we are lacking in that area...more tip your caps. Despite the horrendous outing last time, Santiago's WHIP is still at exactly 1.00. Rangers now 1 for 12 but leading. That's what you would typically expect out of the Sox with the solo homer routine. Edited May 3, 2013 by caulfield12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:07 PM) Isn't that what Reed is? He's not overpowering, but he has 3 solid pitches (for a reliever) and has good command. I didn't say he wasn't but that is why if the sox move him they do not need to look for a stuff guy. I think there is no market for closers so why even move him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ May 3, 2013 -> 02:15 AM) I didn't say he wasn't but that is why if the sox move him they do not need to look for a stuff guy. I think there is no market for closers so why even move him? If the Sox plan to compete the next few years, you keep him. The theory has always been that if you're in rebuilding mode, you trade your closer if you get a good deal for him. I think it's too early to give up Reed, as he needs more time to build up his prestige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:10 PM) Way too early on Gillaspie. To not be a platoon player, he has to prove he can hit lefties or Keppinger/Greene will eventually get those AB's. Rios is a franchise player nearing his mid 30's and will be declining soon. If he's the building block for the future, other than Sale/Quintana/Santiago, we're in deep deep trouble. While he's a VERY good player, he's not a superstar and the organization would be better off spending that money on developing younger players or using that playing time for prospects who are part of the future. Alexei is what he is...great or highlight reel, but sometimes erratic/brain cramp defense, and a 675-700ish OPS. Same issue with Rios as far as age and contract going in the wrong direction. You guys are hard to please. Other than a bunch of great-looking starting pitching under contract for 3 or more years, a five-tool OFer on a fair contract for 2 more years, one of the most consistently good SS's in the MLB on the squad for 3 more years, we suck! Young 3B that is raking? Unlike those old guys that have produced too much to excite us, he hasn't produced enough. We clearly need something like a 25 year old Frank Thomas or three to show that we're going in the right direction. We don't like our old 1B is producing. We'll get 13.5 million to replace him. 9 million in savings from losing Gavin Floyd. If Danks doesn't work out, I expect there will be insurance payouts to help offset that. We're also in a major market and it is unclear whether we're even at the top of our possible expenditures. We could buy a major free agent if they hit the market -- a Pujols type of player, if we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 Score a dam run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted May 3, 2013 Share Posted May 3, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 2, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) Because KW/Hahn were getting too clever for their own good and thinking they could get a significant return for Gavin at the ASB. After our early "offensive barrage," we've settled into the middle innings "blahs" again, like clockwork. Grimm's got a lot of talent, and we are lacking in that area...more tip your caps. He still could have been stretched out in the spring and moved to the pen in April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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