Balta1701 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:04 PM) Unlike with AJP the Sox didnt really give him a halfway decent offer. He had to take the cash and go. It turned out to be a horrible decision. GMAB man, if he was willing to sign for a "Halfway decent offer" the team would quite readily have popped 3/$36 for him. He wanted to hit the FA market and see what was out there, and a team offered him basically $22 million for waiving his no trade clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Toronto is a pretty nice place. In the summer, I would prefer it to Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:14 PM) Toronto is a pretty nice place. In the summer, I would prefer it to Miami. Don't have to deal with hurricanes and stupid tourists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:32 PM) Don't have to deal with hurricanes and stupid tourists. Though he is probably getting hit a lot harder by taxes versus in Miami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:33 PM) Though he is probably getting hit a lot harder by taxes versus in Miami. From my experience last weekend, Toronto's taxes make Chicago's seem cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:37 PM) From my experience last weekend, Toronto's taxes make Chicago's seem cheap. When I was last up there about 10 years ago, even their sales tax was 15% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) When I was last up there about 10 years ago, even their sales tax was 15% Yeah, that's how it was, somewhere between 13-15% tax anywhere we ate. Also, a case of beer cost like $45 because of liquor taxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:40 PM) When I was last up there about 10 years ago, even their sales tax was 15% When guys get traded, isn't there some sort of provision, at least with the Canadian team, in regards to taxes and exchange rate to where the Blue Jays would have to even it out? I know at one point there was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) Yeah, that's how it was, somewhere between 13-15% tax anywhere we ate. Also, a case of beer cost like $45 because of liquor taxes. People are willing to pay well over $200 a case at USCF if you include tips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:51 PM) People are willing to pay well over $200 a case at USCF if you include tips. As is the case at many other baseball stadiums including the Rogers Centre. I don't see how that's relevant to my store-bought beer comparison, but OK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) When guys get traded, isn't there some sort of provision, at least with the Canadian team, in regards to taxes and exchange rate to where the Blue Jays would have to even it out? I know at one point there was. The salary is guaranteed and paid in dollars. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Why are people concerned with MARK! ? Guy got paid. He continues to get paid. He was a good player for us, he is gone. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2013 -> 01:12 PM) GMAB man, if he was willing to sign for a "Halfway decent offer" the team would quite readily have popped 3/$36 for him. He wanted to hit the FA market and see what was out there, and a team offered him basically $22 million for waiving his no trade clause. You can take a break if you want, I'll give one to you. However you are wrong, we offered him dogs*** on purpose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 7, 2013 -> 03:39 PM) You can take a break if you want, I'll give one to you. However you are wrong, we offered him dogs*** on purpose. We didn't make him an offer. We let him go out and see what market value was for him, and he found a team willing to vastly overpay for him if he gave up his NTC. He was willing to make that sacrifice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 7, 2013 -> 02:44 PM) We didn't make him an offer. We let him go out and see what market value was for him, and he found a team willing to vastly overpay for him if he gave up his NTC. He was willing to make that sacrifice. Yes they did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 7, 2013 -> 02:48 PM) Yes they did. ORLY? Do tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 7, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) ORLY? Do tell. Go back to the old thread. They told him exactly what they would pay him and it was a no brainer to take what was about twice as much from Miami. I admit it wasnt a formal offer which they never really made because their value of him wasnt even close to what other teams was. Edited May 7, 2013 by RockRaines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ May 4, 2013 -> 08:27 AM) 2013: $11,000,000 2014: $18,000,000 2015: $19,000,000 I'm not shedding any tears for #56. What a ridiculous contract! Good for Mark!...but ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I don't believe I've watched a player enjoying playing any sport as much as Mark looked like he enjoyed playing baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Do you think Mark may just retire if he keeps getting rocked? He seems like a proud guy to me. Of course some crafty lefties have good years and some bad years. maybe he'll ride out the storm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 (edited) Mark is toast in AL East or AL for that matter anymore. Edited May 22, 2013 by Soxfest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ May 22, 2013 -> 06:37 PM) Do you think Mark may just retire if he keeps getting rocked? He seems like a proud guy to me. Of course some crafty lefties have good years and some bad years. maybe he'll ride out the storm. Not with how insanely backloaded that deal was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 He pitched well today. I listened for most of the game. The announcers mentioned the game 3 weeks or so ago where he gave up 7 runs to the Rays in a single inning and came back to get 11 of the next 12 outs and kept the team in the game, as they rallied to win 8-7. Those two runs were questionable. Originally, they were unearned, as Izturis made a foolhardy try at a grounder that he should have just put in his pocket and it ended up rolling into the outfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 If the Sox face Buehrle at home, it'll be June 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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