southsider2k5 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 12, 2013 -> 10:18 PM) Trade sale while his value is at its highest now. Look towards 2016 WHAT IS RICK HAHN WAITING FOR, A PERFECT GAME???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:59 AM) Was at the game, of course my dad mentions the perfect game before that inning Awesome game by Sale, I've been fortunate enough that this is the 3rd time now I've seen Sale pitch and its been a gem every time. If it is a proximity thing, then mine means nothing, but I was mentioning the perfect game before the 6th inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:02 AM) If it is a proximity thing, then mine means nothing, but I was mentioning the perfect game before the 6th inning. Ha, I'll still blame my dad. Also, anyone know Tyler Greene's walk up music? I had no idea what that was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 13, 2013 -> 04:04 AM) 100 percent joke Oh I knew you were joking, sorry. (others, not so much) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 13, 2013 -> 03:49 AM) Unfortunately, some other people have seriously suggested this idea. I don't understand this. No one is suggesting Chris Sale isn't a valuable commodity. There is a deal that would benefit the Sox involving Sale, it's just extremely unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 13, 2013 Author Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) I don't understand this. No one is suggesting Chris Sale isn't a valuable commodity. There is a deal that would benefit the Sox involving Sale, it's just extremely unlikely. He's one of the very few that could affect ticket sales by departing - not only because we'd be a worse team, but yeah, people will actually come out to see him. That being said, there's absolutely no way he can be dealt. None. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 04:08 PM) I don't understand this. No one is suggesting Chris Sale isn't a valuable commodity. There is a deal that would benefit the Sox involving Sale, it's just extremely unlikely. Sale for Trout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2013 -> 04:17 PM) Sale for Trout? Sox would, Angels would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2013 -> 02:17 PM) Sale for Trout? It would have been better the other way around. Trout for Sale. $3.99/lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (BigSqwert @ May 12, 2013 -> 09:43 PM) Probably the only reason I even check the box score these days is to see how Sale is progressing. This team is difficult to follow these days. :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 04:48 PM) Sox would, Angels would not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 05:48 PM) Sox would, Angels would not. Then there's literally no reason for anyone to keep talking about Dealing Sale like it's a good idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2013 -> 11:49 PM) Then there's literally no reason for anyone to keep talking about Dealing Sale like it's a good idea. Harper, Trout and Machado are the 3 hitters that I would trade Sale for, no questions asked. As good as Kershaw is, Sale is going to make a lot less money than him for the next 5 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:52 PM) Harper, Trout and Machado are the 3 hitters that I would trade Sale for, no questions asked. As good as Kershaw is, Sale is going to make a lot less money than him for the next 5 years. And since this type of deal will not happen, we need to get the guy who keeps saying "Tear it down and build for 2017" to stop saying so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2013 -> 10:55 PM) And since this type of deal will not happen, we need to get the guy who keeps saying "Tear it down and build for 2017" to stop saying so. Yep, Sale is the type of player you build around. I totally get the argument for trading Peavy in that he will most likely be off the roster by the time you are competitive again with the Tigers. However, the same is not true with Sale. If you build your team around a stable of Sale/Santiago/Quintana, it makes it a lot easier to use your resources on offense. Edited May 13, 2013 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) I don't understand this. No one is suggesting Chris Sale isn't a valuable commodity. There is a deal that would benefit the Sox involving Sale, it's just extremely unlikely. Listen Marty, I respect your baseball knowledge, but I've got to completely disagree here. Sale is a legit #1 starter with Cy Young caliber stuff. If your goal is to win a World Series at any point in the future, you build around an ace. There is no other position on a 25 man roster harder to fill and it's by far the most valuable position in the postseason. I get the "no player is untradable" perspective, but unless someone is going to give you a pitching prospect with a 75% chance or better of becoming an ace, then you really can't afford to move Sale. And if some team was willing to make such a move, a red flag would immedietely go off in my mind that I'm getting damaged goods. Teams just don't trade pitching prospects with #1 stuff anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2013 -> 05:55 PM) And since this type of deal will not happen, we need to get the guy who keeps saying "Tear it down and build for 2017" to stop saying so. So not every trade for Sale makes them a worse team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:08 PM) Listen Marty, I respect your baseball knowledge, but I've got to completely disagree here. Sale is a legit #1 starter with Cy Young caliber stuff. If your goal is to win a World Series at any point in the future, you build around an ace. There is no other position on a 25 man roster harder to fill and it's by far the most valuable position in the postseason. I get the "no player is untradable" perspective, but unless someone is going to give you a pitching prospect with a 75% chance or better of becoming an ace, then you really can't afford to move Sale. And if some team was willing to make such a move, a red flag would immedietely go off in my mind that I'm getting damaged goods. Teams just don't trade pitching prospects with #1 stuff anymore. You would not trade Sale for Trout or Harper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 05:13 PM) You would not trade Sale for Trout or Harper? Irrelevant. They have to keep Trout, he's one of their few affordable younger players. He's stuck, for now. And they wouldn't trade him in a million years unless he was damaged goods, same with Harper in WASH. Those are franchise, once a generation players/superstars. Chris Sale is an ace, but he's not the type of player that will draw 5-7500 additional fans to see him whenever he pitches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 07:11 PM) So not every trade for Sale makes them a worse team. So the next time you advocate trading sale, we can ask when the angels decided to give up Trout, and listen to te crickets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:00 PM) So the next time you advocate trading sale, we can ask when the angels decided to give up Trout, and listen to te crickets. Never advocated trading Sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Well, the White Sox are unlikely to wantonly spend their way out of this mess after the 2011 fiasco. It's more like "austerity" with the lower ticket prices and, one would assume, lowered payroll for 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2013 -> 10:34 PM) It's more like "austerity" with the lower ticket prices and, one would assume, lowered payroll for 2014. WIth the extra $25 million in TV money, this seems unlikely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) You would not trade Sale for Trout or Harper? QUOTE (Marty34 @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:17 PM) Never advocated trading Sale. Then stop. You are being argumentative to be argumentative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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