fathom Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 "And once again, that did not take long"-Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 13, 2013 -> 07:39 PM) Does that include the runs he's given back with the bonehead plays and bad defense and baseball sense overall? It seems we're trying to justify what can't be justified that is bad play And Rios isn't exactly distinguishing himself either so far on defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Retired 10 in a row so White Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (JoshPR @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:39 PM) Does that include the runs he's given back with the bonehead plays and bad defense and baseball sense overall? It seems we're trying to justify what can't be justified that is bad play UZR would say that his range, etc. has contributed more positive value than his boneheadedness has subtracted value. He also usually is close to leading the league in baserunning runs added so that does push up his WAR number Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 13, 2013 -> 09:35 PM) I should say most of his WAR value comes from his baserunning and defense, but he's far from the biggest problem here. 28 year old CF who can bat his weight, I'm looking elsewhere for a target of my angst Problem is he's a center fielder cause the sox put him there, he clearly has stated he ain't confortable there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:40 PM) 29 and he doesn't really want to play CF. With a lot of wear and tear. And possibly 2 years older. Possibly 2 years older? Why does your font look like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 14, 2013 -> 02:41 AM) UZR would say that his range, etc. has contributed more positive value than his boneheadedness has subtracted value. He also usually is close to leading the league in baserunning runs added so that does push up his WAR number I truly hate defensive metrics. De Aza has been awful on defense all season, yet there's actually a stat that says he's played well?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 13, 2013 -> 07:41 PM) UZR would say that his range, etc. has contributed more positive value than his boneheadedness has subtracted value. He also usually is close to leading the league in baserunning runs added so that does push up his WAR number And you would trade a Top 100 prospect from the BA list for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2013 -> 09:41 PM) And Rios isn't exactly distinguishing himself either so far on defense. None of them are, I agree 100 % Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Caulfield's font is intoxicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffro2525 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Nice catch Flowers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:42 PM) I truly hate defensive metrics. De Aza has been awful on defense all season, yet there's actually a stat that says he's played well?? He has been one of the worst in baseball this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Dom't get hurt Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 13, 2013 -> 07:42 PM) Possibly 2 years older? Why does your font look like that? I hit the wrong button on Chinese computer (normally it's spaced out for this typing in Mandarin characters, haha). Can't get it back to normal setting for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Minn guys ripping Sox D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:42 PM) I truly hate defensive metrics. De Aza has been awful on defense all season, yet there's actually a stat that says he's played well?? Well -- any proponent of UZR would say to take it with a ginormous grain of salt with so few plays out there so far this season. On the other hand, his numbers for this season aren't a ton different than what he's posted throughout his career. This metric is based on a human rating each individual play with video review. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:44 PM) I hit the wrong button on Chinese computer (normally it's spaced out for this typing in Mandarin characters, haha). Can't get it back to normal setting for some reason. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 100 pitches Santiago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 13, 2013 -> 07:47 PM) 100 pitches Santiago Par for the course when your defense keeps extending innings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I'll take responsibility for being an incredible jinx for the Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 sox have a knack for making bad pitchers look great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 I always kind of liked Pedro Hernandez. He was pretty redundant in our system, but he has the makings of a back of rotation pitcher if things go well for him. Such a Twins pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ May 14, 2013 -> 01:52 AM) I always kind of liked Pedro Hernandez. He was pretty redundant in our system, but he has the makings of a back of rotation pitcher if things go well for him. Such a Twins pitcher. He sucks, I hope the Twins keep him in the rotation forever. Edited May 14, 2013 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 QUOTE (bbilek1 @ May 13, 2013 -> 08:52 PM) Stone completely dissecting Hernandez, "Not much of a fastball and if you look at his other stuff, it doesn't seem to be doing much." Yet so called brass in dugout has no clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 Alexei is actually hitting the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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