AND THAT'S A WHITE SOX WINNER!!!

[southsider2k5]

YOU CANNOT HOPE TO DEFEAT MY SERPENT!!!

[Quin]

Imagine if we had let go of Quetzalcoatl like the Yankees did?

 

Everyone one on this board would be livid.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Beautiful. I LOVE beating the Red Sox. Beating the Red Sox and Yankees are the most gratifying wins each year. Because the media HAS to acknowledge our victories over their beloved teams.

[chw42]

Feels great to win a series against a good Red Sox team.

 

If only Sale didn't get scratched for tomorrow's game.

[LittleHurt05]

Trade Keppinger, his value will never be higher!

[Soxfest]

White Sox need to

[iamshack]

Way to go blood of the penis!

 

Alex, Alexei and Kepp!

[caulfield12]

Imagine if we had let go of Quetzalcoatl like the Yankees did?

 

Everyone one on this board would be livid.

 

 

I'll trade for their payroll and 26 or 27 or whatever number of World Series titles, lol.

 

I'm sure it rankled Cashman that Contreras won a World Series for us, too...but it's just a blip on the radar for Yankees' fans, like Hideki Irabu or Kei Igawa.

 

 

Keep in mind, Quintana was in his 6th minor league season and still in A ball.

 

 

BTW, trade Reed and Crain, NOW. 75% joking.

 

Edited May 22, 2013 by caulfield12

[Harry Chappas]

This team is quite an enigma. Handled Texas and Boston two of the AL's best

 

They need to score and make Addy's life easier.

[caulfield12]

Was going to say we'd be in a tie for 3rd place...but the Royals just loaded the bases with no outs and down a run in the top of the 8th against the Lastros/DisAstros.

 

 

Moustakas, Francouer, Escobar and Perez aren't the same offensive forces they were last year, or the prior year in Frenchy's case.

Edited May 22, 2013 by caulfield12

[chw42]

Come on Astros bullpen, stop sucking.

 

We can be in 3rd with a Royals loss.

[The Ginger Kid]

Trade Keppinger, his value will never be higher!

this truly made me laugh out loud

[caulfield12]

Come on Astros bullpen, stop sucking.

 

We can be in 3rd with a Royals loss.

 

 

Not going to happen. Although Cain striking out with no outs, bases loaded...almost expected another K or DP ball from Moustakas but he actually came through there and Kottaras just walked in the go-ahead run.

 

 

That Kottaras is an UNCANNY WALK MACHINE. Maybe the new Greek God of Walks.

7 walks, 16 official at-bats. Already has won one (and if this one holds up, two) games with walks this year.

 

Royals blew it open. More bad Astros fielding.

 

They're going to be lucky to win 40 games this year. (Actual pace is 46-116).

Edited May 22, 2013 by caulfield12

[thxfrthmmrs]

I'll trade for their payroll and 26 or 27 or whatever number of World Series titles, lol.

 

I'm sure it rankled Cashman that Contreras won a World Series for us, too...but it's just a blip on the radar for Yankees' fans, like Hideki Irabu or Kei Igawa.

 

 

Keep in mind, Quintana was in his 6th minor league season and still in A ball.

 

 

BTW, trade Reed and Crain, NOW. 75% joking.

 

Way to skew the statistics. He only pitched like 5 innings in 06, got injured and didn't pitch in 07, 2008 was his first year legitimately pitching. He only spent 4 years below Double A, and two of which are in DSL. He was on his way to Double A at age 23, nothing wrong with that. There were plenty of people, this board included, puzzled by the Yankees move to release Quintana, because he had some potential. I am glad it worked out for us.

 

BTW, Reed with 16 saves in 21 wins for us. Baseball has been pretty fun this year.

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Not going to happen. Although Cain striking out with no outs, bases loaded...almost expected another K or DP ball from Moustakas but he actually came through there and Kottaras just walked in the go-ahead run.

 

 

That Kottaras is an UNCANNY WALK MACHINE. Maybe the new Greek God of Walks.

7 walks, 16 official at-bats. Already has won one (and if this one holds up, two) games with walks this year.

 

Royals blew it open. More bad Astros fielding.

 

They're going to be lucky to win 40 games this year.

 

I think that title belongs to Votto now.

[The Ginger Kid]

I really hope we move up in the ESPN power rankings. That's really all that matters to me.

[caulfield12]

Way to skew the statistics. He only pitched like 5 innings in 06, got injured and didn't pitch in 07, 2008 was his first year legitimately pitching. He only spent 4 years below Double A, and two of which are in DSL. He was on his way to Double A at age 23, nothing wrong with that. There were plenty of people, this board included, puzzled by the Yankees move to release Quintana, because he had some potential. I am glad it worked out for us.

 

BTW, Reed with 16 saves in 21 wins for us. Baseball has been pretty fun this year.

 

 

If you go back to the day of the acquisition, I don't even think ANYONE knew what to make of it.

 

He's one of, if not, the first, Colombian pitcher to make it successfully. Orlando Cabrera and the Renteria brothers were the others, but were all position players/hitters.

 

I just meant he was in the Yankees' system at the A Level of lower for a good six years. That doesn't scream someone who's going to spend a month in AA, skip AAA and pitch like an All-Star for 3+ months in the majors.

 

In fact, I would guess that has never happened before that someone spent most of the previous year in A ball before being claimed by another team and making that jump all the way to the majors the following season. Maybe Liriano, but he was part of a trade, not a roster claim.

Edited May 22, 2013 by caulfield12

[Jake]

I really hope we move up in the ESPN power rankings. That's really all that matters to me.

 

[thxfrthmmrs]

If you go back to the day of the acquisition, I don't even think ANYONE knew what to make of it.

 

He's one of, if not, the first, Colombian pitcher to make it successfully. Orlando Cabrera and the Renteria brothers were the others, but were all position players/hitters.

 

I just meant he was in the Yankees' system at the A Level of lower for a good six years. That doesn't scream someone who's going to spend a month in AA, skip AAA and pitch like an All-Star for 3+ months in the majors.

 

In fact, I would guess that has never happened before that someone spent most of the previous year in A ball before being claimed by another team and making that jump all the way to the majors the following season. Maybe Liriano, but he was part of a trade, not a roster claim.

 

What does it have to do anything at all? You pull the most random things out sometimes. Is there anything against Colombian pitchers we don't know about?

 

6 years, hell, two of those years he didn't do anything. He was only 19 years old when he pitched his first full season in DSL. The fact that he made such a smooth transition to the majors can even tell you the Yankees were too safe with him.

 

I would like to pull up some old posts, because I am positive people were surprised Yankees released Q, and he has some potential in him. No one expected the quick promotion and success that he has had, but you made it sound like he was some over aged scrub who struggled to make it out of A ball.

Edited May 22, 2013 by thxfrthmmrs

[caulfield12]

What does it have to do anything at all? You pull the most random things out sometimes. Is there anything against Colombian pitchers we don't know about?

 

6 years, hell, two of those years he didn't do anything. He was only 19 years old when he pitched his first full season in DSL. The fact that he made such a smooth transition to the majors can even tell you the Yankees were too safe with him.

 

I would like to pull up some old posts, because I am positive people were surprised Yankees released Q, and he has some potential in him. No one expected the quick promotion and success that he has had, but you made it sound like he was some over aged scrub who struggled to make it out of A ball.

 

but you made it sound like he was some over aged scrub who struggled to make it out of A ball. 

If there's a long list of current major leaguers who were in A or lower (short-season/summer league) for years 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 21 and then suddenly blossomed at that time and became the equivalent of an All-Star, I would love to see it

 

 

Because that's the way baseball works.

 

For the longest time, it took convincing that a Mexican position player could make it successfully at the major league level.

 

It's like an African-American quarterback....as soon as someone proves it can be done, then it's not an issue.

 

 

I'm not saying that's WHAT I believe...just the way a lot of the older scouts that I used to be around looked at things back in the 90's. Maybe it has changed a bit (but, for an example, I haven't seen an influx of women as Assistant GM's or even running minor league organizations...it takes decades to change that good 'ol boys network).

 

I remember in 1994, one of the scouts saying Ordonez is going to get fat or doesn't project as a major leaguer because, at that time, his only plus tool was hitting. Or that players from Mexico all eat too many tacos and burritos and enchiladas, don't stay in shape, whatever.

 

It was silly and fed into some of the worst stereotypes. All of the minor leaguers from the Dominican back at that time...90% of them were rail thin (like Alexei) or were built like Ricky Henderson or Jose Canseco.

Edited May 22, 2013 by caulfield12

[justBLAZE]

It was nice to be at Comiskey with warm weather and then it had to start pouring. Tomorrow's weather is supposed to be rain and a lot of it. I want to get it in because I'll be going again but we are probably better off making up the game when Buchholz is most likely not pitching.

 

I was there to tonight!

[justBLAZE]

Did you leave your seats in the 8th like a coward or stay strong like a man?

 

I stayed until the 9th and watch Reed close it down from the concourse.

[thxfrthmmrs]

but you made it sound like he was some over aged scrub who struggled to make it out of A ball. 

If there's a long list of current major leaguers who were in A or lower (short-season/summer league) for years 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 and 21 and then suddenly blossomed at that time and became the equivalent of an All-Star, I would love to see it

 

 

Because that's the way baseball works.

 

For the longest time, it took convincing that a Mexican position player could make it successfully at the major league level.

 

It's like an African-American quarterback....as soon as someone proves it can be done, then it's not an issue.

 

 

I'm not saying that's WHAT I believe...just the way a lot of the older scouts that I used to be around looked at things back in the 90's. Maybe it has changed a bit (but, for an example, I haven't seen an influx of women as Assistant GM's or even running minor league organizations...it takes decades to change that good 'ol boys network).

 

I remember in 1994, one of the scouts saying Ordonez is going to get fat or doesn't project as a major leaguer because, at that time, his only plus tool was hitting. Or that players from Mexico all eat too many tacos and burritos and enchiladas, don't stay in shape, whatever.

 

It was silly and fed into some of the worst stereotypes. All of the minor leaguers from the Dominican back at that time...90% of them were rail thin (like Alexei) or were built like Ricky Henderson or Jose Canseco.

 

That's ridiculous. What part of he didn't pitch full time until 19 years old don't you understand? He only pitched 4 fulls seasons prior to being released, and he was very good during all 4 years. Did people think he can be this good this soon? No. Did people has expectations for him? Of course they did. I don't think anyone sees a 22 year old who just finished A ball as a major red flag. He was viewed as a guy with no potential as you are making it sound like.

 

[fathom]

Yes please to a postponement for tomorrow's game. Don't want to empty out the bullpen two straight games with Santiago going on 3 days rest (and throwing a bullpen today) and then Danks on Friday night.

[caulfield12]

That's ridiculous. What part of he didn't pitch full time until 19 years old don't you understand? He only pitched 4 fulls seasons prior to being released, and he was very good during all 4 years. Did people think he can be this good this soon? No. Did people has expectations for him? Of course they did. I don't think anyone sees a 22 year old who just finished A ball as a major red flag. He was viewed as a guy with no potential as you are making it sound like.

 

 

http://www.pinstripedbible.com/2012/9/11/3...is-just-another

 

You also have to take into consideration the PED's red flag.

 

 

 

 

 

Joel Sherman wrote about Quintana today (great timing, eh?) and the team’s decision to let him leave as a minor league free agent after last season…

 

…the Yankees did not put Quintana on the 40-man roster, making him a free agent. GM Brian Cashman said they deliberated on the matter and, despite a dearth of quality lefties in the system, “We looked at him as a fringy prospect. We offered him a minor league contract to stay, but not a 40-man roster position. We didn’t feel he was ahead of other guys we gave spots to. It was a numbers game, but right now it does not look like a good decision.”

 

Quintana’s agent hunted around for a 40-man roster spot and found a taker in Chicago. Quintana made nine starts in Double-A before coming up for good when John Danks hit the disabled list. He’s excelled at limiting walks (1.53 BB/9 and 4.5 BB%) and homers (0.51 HR/9) but he hasn’t racked up many strikeouts (5.09 K/9 and 15.0 K%) or ground balls (40.4%). Quintana uses his upper-80s fastball and mid-80s slider heavily but will also mix in the occasional upper-70s curveball and on the rarest of occasions, a mid-80s changeup. Sherman spoke to a scout who had a little more to offer…

 

A scout for an NL team who saw two of his major league starts reported a good fastball that Quintana cuts and sinks, but worried there was no clear swing-and-miss pitch, and also that the southpaw had a bad pickoff move and was slow to the plate, making him susceptible to stolen bases.

riveraveblues.com

Edited May 22, 2013 by caulfield12