caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 22, 2013 -> 08:44 PM) We already won the series and we're losing this game. You don't bring out the big dogs unless its must win or you're already winning. That's how we ended up just kind of floating along...drifting...in the standings. We need that 14-2/13-1 streak, and it's almost impossible with our inconsistent hitting and bullpen woes. You can't get back over .500 is you continue to fall flat when you have opportunities to sweep teams that are back on their heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 You can tell Stone hates Flowers' catching ability. He's got to be playing himself out of a starting role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2013 -> 09:45 PM) Couldn't disagree more. You have tomorrow off and your starting pitcher gave you 6 innings. You should be able to piece together 3 innings from your bullpen. Omogrosso had no business starting this inning. If the score was something like 5-1 going into this inning, then that's fine. I couldn't disagree more. Crain threw yesterday and is fragile. Thornton sucks. If we were winning 2-1, you bring out Crain. We were losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Our catching tandem can't have played any worse defense this year than they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Tired of Tyler Flowers. When is enough enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 This game is one base hit here from being ova. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ May 23, 2013 -> 02:48 AM) Our catching tandem can't have played any worse defense this year than they have. That's cause neither are MLB caliber catchers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I think the Sox are happy to give him time to struggle at the plate, but he is really pushing his luck with his defense. It'll have to be Phegley though, because Gimenez has been even worse defensively Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 22, 2013 -> 08:46 PM) The season is a marathon. Everyone thinks its a sprint. Look at how many errors Ramirez has made this season because he's played every inning. Think that will improve in July/August/September? The only reason we almost won last year was taking a lead into the last 6 weeks of the season. We're not constructed to reel in our opponents from behind in the final 1/3rd of the year. The bullpen will completely implode at this rate. And Reed hasn't even gone through the inevitable rough patch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ May 23, 2013 -> 02:49 AM) Tired of Tyler Flowers. When is enough enough? It should be all year, as you don't go into this season with this stupid plan they had if you're not willing to live with his struggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 What's that? A slider strike from Jones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 23, 2013 -> 02:50 AM) Look at how many errors Ramirez has made this season because he's played every inning. Think that will improve in July/August/September? The only reason we almost won last year was taking a lead into the last 6 weeks of the season. We're not constructed to reel in our opponents from behind in the final 1/3rd of the year. The bullpen will completely implode at this rate. And Reed hasn't even gone through the inevitable rough patch. Or the fact that we play the Tigers so often during the 2nd half of the year, and our offense isn't constructed to beat up on RHP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2013 -> 09:47 PM) That's how we ended up just kind of floating along...drifting...in the standings. We need that 14-2/13-1 streak, and it's almost impossible with our inconsistent hitting and bullpen woes. You can't get back over .500 is you continue to fall flat when you have opportunities to sweep teams that are back on their heels. It's May and we're like 5 games back. Wtf? There's 3/4 of a season left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) It should be all year, as you don't go into this season with this stupid plan they had if you're not willing to live with his struggles. Have to be encouraged that Phegley has done well, though. Good organizations can have guys that struggle when there is a hot minor leaguer right behind him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Flowers definitely looked like a bad Little Leaguer on that last passed ball. He had no chance and/or no clue on that inside pitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 This hasn't exactly been the perfect game, but let's not let slide the fact that we have been beaten by a damn good pitcher to this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Not to mention the fact that there are ZERO signs of Ventura's defensive intervention having any effect. We might be 3 games higher in the standings than our low point, and we should be able to beat the Marlins and Cubs, but a .500 club isn't going to get it done when we currently have only two reliable relievers and the worst defense in the AL. Flowers has been killing us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) It should be all year, as you don't go into this season with this stupid plan they had if you're not willing to live with his struggles. You think he is going to magically fix his problems that he has had his entire career? I think at some point you have to realize that this is just futile and go in another direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) Look at how many errors Ramirez has made this season because he's played every inning. Think that will improve in July/August/September? The only reason we almost won last year was taking a lead into the last 6 weeks of the season. We're not constructed to reel in our opponents from behind in the final 1/3rd of the year. The bullpen will completely implode at this rate. And Reed hasn't even gone through the inevitable rough patch. Frankly, I can't take you seriously because you don't watch the games. You have no idea how Ramirez has looked defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 23, 2013 -> 03:51 AM) It's May and we're like 5 games back. Wtf? There's 3/4 of a season left. Caufield may be a reactionary but I also dislike your response. I hate the "it's early" type posts regarding our team. It's like the Sox goal is to win the division by one game every year rather than actually play good baseball most of the season and win the fricking division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) Couldn't disagree more. You have tomorrow off and your starting pitcher gave you 6 innings. You should be able to piece together 3 innings from your bullpen. Omogrosso had no business starting this inning. If the score was something like 5-1 going into this inning, then that's fine. While we're piling on Robin why the heck doesn't Gimenez get more starts against RH's . He only went 4/5 with a HR last time he played. And it's not so much Flower's hitting I mind but my goodness he can't catch a lick. Edited May 23, 2013 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ May 23, 2013 -> 03:52 AM) You think he is going to magically fix his problems that he has had his entire career? I think at some point you have to realize that this is just futile and go in another direction. Oh trust me, I think he's awful. At best, he's a 2nd string catcher if the starting catcher can pound righties. He'd be a great complimentary player to someone like John Jaso. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 At least AJ is a FA again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Haha, just cause you take a lot of pitches doesn't mean you have a good eye Tyler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 On the way home I think the whole stadium just emptied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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