Soxfest Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) I'll be the first of many to say this. WE NEVER SHOULD HAVE STARTED SANTIAGO TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think Sox just threw this game away with Santiago with day off Thursday. Edited May 23, 2013 by Soxfest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 A bit low on velocity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnCangelosi Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 88 MPH on his fastball there. Couldn't we have brought up a guy from AAA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 what a gas can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 When you have the starting pitcher doubting himself and questioning the decision to start him against a team with the offensive talent of the Red Sox....the results will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I do not see the superstar in waiting talk with Santiago at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Ortiz stole 3rd. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Nava acting mad when he'd already been gifted a ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ May 22, 2013 -> 06:20 PM) what a gas can Santiago was throwing 94, 95 and even touched 96 on Saturday, according to the Angels' broadcasters. This is all on the White Sox. They never should have started him. You don't have him throw 40 pitches in a side session and then start the next day unless it's the playoffs/World Series/emergency situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Fat ass Ortiz steals a base with no throw come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 That 0-2 pitch was a screwball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 22, 2013 -> 06:21 PM) I do not see the superstar in waiting talk with Santiago at all. John Danks also started on Saturday. If he was starting and getting lit up on 3 day's rest tonight, then whose fault would it be? Danks, or the GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Looks like he's settled down. He should be okay. In the end, the runs scored on a bulls*** soft hit anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ May 22, 2013 -> 06:22 PM) Fat ass Ortiz steals a base with no throw come on. Despite the team meeting, there haven't been significant improvements in our defense/fundamentals. We're simply getting good pitching and better hitting than previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 25 pitches in the first for Santiago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2013 -> 07:22 PM) John Danks also started on Saturday. If he was starting and getting lit up on 3 day's rest tonight, then whose fault would it be? Danks, or the GM? GM has final say on these things, but this is all almost certainly a decision made by the coaching staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 (edited) The decision to start Santiago tonight ranks up there with starting Cotts in New York, etc. Just a complete failure by the organization. I don't even care about the results, but rather Santiago's long term future. This is an awful lot of stress to put on his arm. The organization is treating him like a 40 year old Terry Mulholland. Edited May 23, 2013 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 lets get some points against the cheater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2013 -> 08:21 PM) Santiago was throwing 94, 95 and even touched 96 on Saturday, according to the Angels' broadcasters. This is all on the White Sox. They never should have started him. You don't have him throw 40 pitches in a side session and then start the next day unless it's the playoffs/World Series/emergency situation. Who else was available? Seriously, you can't just say don't pitch Santiago, who pitches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Good start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 i see this decision has some of you quite perturbed. It's like Mackowiak starting instead of Anderson all over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Good start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ May 22, 2013 -> 06:24 PM) The decision to start Santiago tonight ranks up there with starting Cotts in New York, etc. Just a complete failure by the organization. I don't even care about the results, but rather Santiago's long term future. This is an awful lot of stress to put on his arm. The organization is treating him like a 40 year old Terry Mulholland. It would be one thing if Saturday didn't happen and his confidence wasn't shaken the way he left the game in the 4th after walking 3 consecutive guys and giving up the homer to Trumbo to start everything. Then, being in disbelief that he was going to start after the side session and throwing an additional 40 pitches. It's just crazy. And the bullpen's still going to be taxed regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 22, 2013 -> 05:21 PM) Santiago was throwing 94, 95 and even touched 96 on Saturday, according to the Angels' broadcasters. This is all on the White Sox. They never should have started him. You don't have him throw 40 pitches in a side session and then start the next day unless it's the playoffs/World Series/emergency situation. They're not asking him to go 6 or 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 We are really overreacting to the potential risk of starting Santiago today. It is sub-optimal, but really not a big deal. Those side sessions are typically thrown at a very low intensity. You wouldn't develop any soreness, for instance. Some guys won't even throw them from a mound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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