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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 04:52 PM)
Jordan Danks kicked the ball. It has to be Ventura's fault, correct?

 

 

There's an atmosphere being created where the errors are either 1) being tolerated or 2) snowballing and defining this team/season.

 

At a certain point, managers are held accountable for those kinds of things.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:54 PM)
There's an atmosphere being created where the errors are either 1) being tolerated or 2) snowballing and defining this team/season.

 

At a certain point, managers are held accountable for those kinds of things.

In a society where a lot of people get a kick out of people except themselves gettimg fired, I can assure you the White Sox are more than happy with Robin. If you really think this is all on him, you might want to find a different hobby because he won't be going anywhere for a while.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 04:53 PM)
His defense has been mediocre at best since joining the Sox. Maybe the most overrated defensive prospect in a long time for the Sox.

 

Not exactly Brian Simmons or Mike Huff, lol....except for his 2 walkoff homers and being John's brother, he would be 100% forgettable.

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QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 05:53 PM)
His defense has been mediocre at best since joining the Sox. Maybe the most overrated defensive prospect in a long time for the Sox.

It's really shocking because he was rated the best outfielder in the organization for several years. He really hasn't looked good in his limited showing.

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 04:59 PM)
In a society where a lot of people get a kick out of people except themselves gettimg fired, I can assure you the White Sox are more than happy with Robin. If you really think this is all on him, you might want to find a different hobby because he won't be going anywhere for a while.

 

 

Because his presence deflects attention from KW's mistakes, and JR. After all, it's impossible "hate" Robin Ventura. What you'll end up with is apathy, frustration and discontent, which you're already seeing evidence of.

 

Hard to get upset with Ventura, he was put in an impossible situation, he did a great job for most of last season under the circumstances but he hasn't been able to make adjustments. The team doesn't seem to be responding and hasn't since last season.

 

Sure, 50% of it's a lack of talent...but Ventura's managing hasn't gotten better. There's no way anyone who has followed the team closely the last 1 1/2 years could come to that conclusion.

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Hopefully someone is held accountable for this disaster of an offense.

 

Anyone that thinks cooper should be let go......I just do not get it.

 

Every single inning of every game is high tension with this piss poor offense.

 

The coaching staff's job is to prepare the team to play and parent, ventura and manto are failing massively.

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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 06:03 PM)
Because his presence deflects attention from KW's mistakes, and JR. After all, it's impossible "hate" Robin Ventura. What you'll end up with is apathy, frustration and discontent, which you're already seeing evidence of.

 

Hard to get upset with Ventura, he was put in an impossible situation, he did a great job for most of last season under the circumstances but he hasn't been able to make adjustments. The team doesn't seem to be responding and hasn't since last season.

 

Sure, 50% of it's a lack of talent...but Ventura's managing hasn't gotten better. There's no way anyone who has followed the team closely the last 1 1/2 years could come to that conclusion.

Lack of talent is 50%?

Exactly who manages this team to a better record?

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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 12:03 AM)
Remember when Anorexei used to hit homers? That was awesome.

 

The league doesn't throw him inside fastballs anymore. They know he doesn't have the ability to hit it over the outfielders head the opposite way.

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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 3, 2013 -> 12:05 AM)
Hopefully someone is held accountable for this disaster of an offense.

 

Anyone that thinks cooper should be let go......I just do not get it.

 

Every single inning of every game is high tension with this piss poor offense.

 

The coaching staff's job is to prepare the team to play and parent, ventura and manto are failing massively.

 

No one thinks Cooper should be gone, but rather if changes are made with Ventura and Cooper doesn't get the managerial job, then maybe he goes elsewhere?

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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 2, 2013 -> 11:05 PM)
Hopefully someone is held accountable for this disaster of an offense.

 

Anyone that thinks cooper should be let go......I just do not get it.

 

Every single inning of every game is high tension with this piss poor offense.

 

The coaching staff's job is to prepare the team to play and parent, ventura and manto are failing massively.

Who wants Cooper to go?

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