6/2 - Sox at A's

[Cerbaho-WG]

What do you do with a guy like Konerko or Dunn? You can't send them to the minors, you can only bench so many of them, and "Cutting them" = paying the rest of their salary, which isn't exactly a major punishment.

 

You can platoon Dunn. Find excuses to pinch hit for him. Put him lower in the order to get him less ABs.

 

This really isn't as hard as you make it out to be. Furthermore, you assume that if you were to get rid of Dunn that there would be no marginal improvement from whomever replaced him. Just because you're paying someone $14 million doesn't mean you have to ride out the entire contract.

[Harry Chappas]

You can't cut Dunn, all you can do is platoon him at DH with keppinger and bat him 7 or 8 when Beckham comes back.

[Balta1701]

You can platoon Dunn. Find excuses to pinch hit for him. Put him lower in the order to get him less ABs.

 

This really isn't as hard as you make it out to be. Furthermore, you assume that if you were to get rid of Dunn that there would be no marginal improvement from whomever replaced him. Just because you're paying someone $14 million doesn't mean you have to ride out the entire contract.

Ok, who gets Dunn's at bats if he's cut? Jordan Danks? Tyler Flowers? Angel Sanchez? Keppinger?

[BigHurt3515]

De Aza still trying to hit like a power hitter.

[JoshPR]

You can't cut Dunn, all you can do is platoon him at DH with keppinger and bat him 7 or 8 when Beckham comes back.

Why???? The money? Really? He's getting paid for nothing anyways

[Cerbaho-WG]

Ok, who gets Dunn's at bats if he's cut? Jordan Danks? Tyler Flowers? Angel Sanchez? Keppinger?

 

You're being intentionally difficult here. Insert any player, I don't care who, who can put up league replacement level numbers against LHP.

 

Example: Casper Wells' slash line for the last three years (almost 300 ABs) against LHP: .264/.349/.489

Edited June 2, 2013 by Cerbaho-WG

[JoshPR]

Ok, who gets Dunn's at bats if he's cut? Jordan Danks? Tyler Flowers? Angel Sanchez? Keppinger?

Anybody, really. It may be crazy, but I at least has had enough of Dunn

[Harry Chappas]

There is nobody in the organization to replace him. You platoon him and pinch hit when a leftie is pitching. Keppinger and Dunn number 7 hitter platoon is about as good as you are going to get.

[JoshPR]

There is nobody in the organization to replace him. You platoon him and pinch hit when a leftie is pitching. Keppinger and Dunn number 7 hitter platoon is about as good as you are going to get.

What is there to replace?? An occasional homer and walk???

[Harry Chappas]

Tigers are having a rough week.

[flavum]

Tigers are having a rough week.

 

And yet they hit the 1/3 mark at 30-24. On pace for 90 wins.

 

They'll get hot and win 95.

 

But yeah, their bullpen isn't great--lower ERA than the Sox by the way.

[Marty34]

Flowers earned a shot to work through struggles for more than 2 months. That's the rule for a guy who works his way up through the minors and has success. He gets until about the trade deadline, IMO. That's what you do when you want to "Rebuild", you take guys who have struggeld and you try to turn them into something.

Jones...what does his year last year earn him? And what if the pitching coach says he can get it together and his peripherals are pretty good (which is the case)?

 

The guy on this team who I'd be more than content with benching for a few games as an actual "Get your head in the game" punishment is De Aza.

 

Rios and Ramirez...they could use some rest at least.

 

Flowers has earned nothing. If he goes somewhere else and turns it around, what have they really lost? A part-time catcher. Not going to lose sleep over it. Get Phegley in the lineup, no excuse not to.

 

[Balta1701]

Flowers has earned nothing. If he goes somewhere else and turns it around, what have they really lost? A part-time catcher. Not going to lose sleep over it. Get Phegley in the lineup, no excuse not to.

And if and when Phegley comes up and struggles because he's barely had experience at the AAA level, then the White Sox have lost both of their potential young catchers. Congrats.

 

And really, do you think that no minor leaguers pay attention when a guy earns a chance and actually gets it? A guy legitimately works his way up, earns the starting job, does everything asked of him, and then gets 2 months? You wouldn't see that an panic if you were at AA? I would.

 

You're the one obsessed with rebuilding and dealing people away. Tyler Flowers is exactly the kind of player the White Sox should want to have on their roster if they're legitimately rebuilding.

[flavum]

Today is Phegley's 166th game with Charlotte. I'm willing to gamble.

[TaylorStSox]

What is there to replace?? An occasional homer and walk???

For all his struggles, he's still in pace for 35/90. There's nobody else in the organization who can do that. PK is killing us just as much, but there's no replacement for him either.

[Balta1701]

Today is Phegley's 166th game with Charlotte. I'm willing to gamble.

And overall his OPS there is .768.

[caulfield12]

53 pitches....a bit high for Sale.

 

Still has the consecutive scoreless streak alive.

Edited June 2, 2013 by caulfield12

[Chicago White Sox]

You're being intentionally difficult here. Insert any player, I don't care who, who can put up league replacement level numbers against LHP.

 

Example: Casper Wells' slash line for the last three years (almost 300 ABs) against LHP: .264/.349/.489

Yeah, you could platoon Wells & Danks and you'd most likely get more production.

[BigHurt3515]

The dreaded lead off walk for this offense

Conor with another walk

[JoshPR]

For all his struggles, he's still in pace for 35/90. There's nobody else in the organization who can do that. PK is killing us just as much, but there's no replacement for him either.

And that the sox are going to have to deal with. I love Paulie, but it's the end of the road sadly. Sox do too much PR, if a player is done he's done move on

[flavum]

And overall his OPS there is .768.

 

He's had a weird career because of his illness. He's good now.

 

I'm not saying bring him up tomorrow, but if Flowers has a dreadful June and Phegley is still hitting, I'd bounce Flowers.

[Balta1701]

He's had a weird career because of his illness. He's good now.

 

I'm not saying bring him up tomorrow, but if Flowers has a dreadful June and Phegley is still hitting, I'd bounce Flowers.

If you're not saying bring him up tomorrow then you're agreeing with me that it's not time yet.

 

I'd give Flowers until ~ the trade deadline. That's the level of shot I think he's earned. That's mid to late July.

[Marty34]

And if and when Phegley comes up and struggles because he's barely had experience at the AAA level, then the White Sox have lost both of their potential young catchers. Congrats.

 

And really, do you think that no minor leaguers pay attention when a guy earns a chance and actually gets it? A guy legitimately works his way up, earns the starting job, does everything asked of him, and then gets 2 months? You wouldn't see that an panic if you were at AA? I would.

 

You're the one obsessed with rebuilding and dealing people away. Tyler Flowers is exactly the kind of player the White Sox should want to have on their roster if they're legitimately rebuilding.

 

Jared Mitchell is going to go into shutdown mode if Flowers is "wronged." Absurd.

[Joxer_Daly]

Would it be an idea to get a few gnomes dotted around The Cell? Might give the team the incentive they need to kick on.

 

I might write in with that suggestion.... :ponder:

[Chicago White Sox]

For all his struggles, he's still in pace for 35/90. There's nobody else in the organization who can do that. PK is killing us just as much, but there's no replacement for him either.

RBIs is not a good stat to base his performance off of. It's always going to be heavily influenced by your spot in the lineup and how the hitters in front of you are doing. As for the HRs, what would he be on pace for if you excluded that three game stretch?