Roster Changes Coming?

[southsider2k5]

I didn't see Nate pitch, but the box score this morning looked encouraging. 5ks of the 7 batters he faced, no BB or H.

[caulfield12]

Crain, Reed making themselves marketable

By Scott Merkin / MLB.com | 6/5/2013 2:40 A.M. ET

 

SEATTLE -- In closer Addison Reed and right-handed setup man Jesse Crain, the White Sox possess a one-two late-inning punch rivaling almost any team in baseball.

 

The question for this duo, aside from whether one or both will be selected as American League All-Stars, is how long will they continue pitching together? Crain seems to be the more likely of the two candidates to move, working in the final stage of a three-year, $13 million deal and putting together some of the best work of his career.

 

Unfortunately for the hurler, the White Sox level of excellence is not close to his career-best 22 straight scoreless appearances or 20 1/3 consecutive scoreless innings. Crain hasn't thought much about what direction he might be going if the White Sox continue to go south and general manager Rick Hahn decides to make changes.

 

"I mean a little bit, but I don't consume myself with it," said Crain before Tuesday's game at Safeco Field. "I can't control it, so all I do is worry about coming here every day and going about my business and throwing one pitch at a time when I'm out there. That's all I can do."

 

Crain has recorded 26 strikeouts over his scoreless streak, potentially increasing his trade value along the way.

 

The 24-year-old Reed, pitching in just his second full big league season, seems like much less of a trade prospect from a struggling White Sox squad.

 

Reed not only has established himself as a reliable closer, tied with Joe Nathan for third in the AL at 17 saves, but he is also under team control through 2017. The young hurler would like nothing more than to be like Paul Konerko and play for the White Sox for 15 years.

 

But he also takes a pragmatic view of the fact that when a team underachieves, there aren't many untouchables, if any. His closing predecessor, Sergio Santos, was traded two months after agreeing to a three-year extension.

 

"Just certain times in the season, a team might have to give up somebody in order to get another piece that they are missing," Reed said. "They might give up some guys that they don't want to or some guys that they saw staying with them for their whole career.

 

"It's not something I'm worried about or thinking about. If it happens, it happens. Right now, I'm with the White Sox and do everything I can to help this team win. It honestly doesn't go through my head.

 

"This is the team I was drafted by, and it would be awesome to stay with one team your whole career," Reed said. "If I had the choice, I'd stay with the White Sox until I threw my last pitch in the big leagues."

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

I've seen a lot of posts wanting Ventura yelling and screaming at players and umpires, thinking that makes a difference. Where you work are the most effective bosses people who yell and scream at their employees if the results haven't been what they expect? Do you yourself respond better when being yelled at?

I know I said yell at umps but all managers use this to some extend to show players he's got their back. Never said do it all the time nor yell at the players.

 

You're a team of highly paid professionals who are out there to win and supposed to be united in a common goal. An ump who makes a bad call is the enemy. It's not a drastic or unsportsmanlike move to show anyone who interferes with winning not on your team deserves scorn.

 

This in no way that should translate to employees getting yelled at by employers or to win at all costs on any kind of amateur level be it college or little leaguers.

[flavum]

Omogrosso sent down.

 

Heath and Troncoso called up.

[Dick Allen]

I know I said yell at umps but all managers use this to some extend to show players he's got their back. Never said do it all the time nor yell at the players.

 

You're a team of highly paid professionals who are out there to win and supposed to be united in a common goal. An ump who makes a bad call is the enemy. It's not a drastic or unsportsmanlike move to show anyone who interferes with winning not on your team deserves scorn.

 

This in no way that should translate to employees getting yelled at by employers or to win at all costs on any kind of amateur level be it college or little leaguers.

I'm sure if you asked the players, they would all say Robin has their back. Ironically, the same probably couldn't be said about Ozzie, a guy who did tangle more with umpires.

 

I do agree players shouldn't be babied, but I think some take Robin's demeanor as meaning he lacks the ability to discipline and/or doesn't care so much, and doesn't really want to manage. I think that is assuming an awful lot, and I believe the assumptions are probably very wrong.

 

The fact is we all baby these players from time to time. We all have come up with excuses about their failures from blaming the weather to saying it is a coach's or managers fault they didn't execute. When Robin gets angry enough to get loud, it probably is very effective, but yelling really doesn't work when it is an act or when it's overdone. Robin being Robin will ultimately work a lot better than Robin being Ditka.

[southsider2k5]

Omogrosso sent down.

 

Heath and Troncoso called up.

 

Got two roster moves correct, just missed on the players

[Dick Allen]

Omogrosso sent down.

 

Heath and Troncoso called up.

Hopefully neither see much time on the mound.

[Balta1701]

Hopefully neither see much time on the mound.

There's a good chance both pitch tonight.

 

Hell Troncoso might have to close.

[CaliSoxFanViaSWside]

I'm sure if you asked the players, they would all say Robin has their back. Ironically, the same probably couldn't be said about Ozzie, a guy who did tangle more with umpires.

 

I do agree players shouldn't be babied, but I think some take Robin's demeanor as meaning he lacks the ability to discipline and/or doesn't care so much, and doesn't really want to manage. I think that is assuming an awful lot, and I believe the assumptions are probably very wrong.

 

The fact is we all baby these players from time to time. We all have come up with excuses about their failures from blaming the weather to saying it is a coach's or managers fault they didn't execute. When Robin gets angry enough to get loud, it probably is very effective, but yelling really doesn't work when it is an act or when it's overdone. Robin being Robin will ultimately work a lot better than Robin being Ditka.

Logically you're right arguing with umps results in nothing being changed 99% of the time so why do managers do it ? Plenty of effective managers do it when they know it changes nothing if only because you have to let an ump know you think the call sucked and you're hurting my team. You hurt my players, my team and I hold you accountable. That does mean something to players as does not going out there when you should.

[Dick Allen]

Logically you're right arguing with umps results in nothing being changed 99% of the time so why do managers do it ? Plenty of effective managers do it when they know it changes nothing if only because you have to let an ump know you think the call sucked and you're hurting my team. You hurt my players, my team and I hold you accountable. That does mean something to players as does not going out there when you should.

Robin gets on umpires, in fact last season I was at a game sitting in the front row behind the dugout behind first base. A call went against the White Sox. Even with the crowd, I could hear Robin from the dugout really laying into the home plate umpire, using some language you wouldn't associate with him.