CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 08:09 PM) Yeah I'd make that deal Gotta get more than that .Throw in Leonys Martin and another minor leaguer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) Sale (imo) goes nowhere unless Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Manny Machado or Buster Posey are coming back. I know the injury risk. But f*** it. You just gotta cross your fingers and hope for the best. Elite, cost-controlled, or in Sale's case, team-friendly contracts such as the one he just signed are by far the most valuable commodity in the new-modern age of baseball. Edited June 18, 2013 by Jordan4life Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 09:31 PM) Sale (imo) goes nowhere unless Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Manny Machado or Buster Posey are coming back. I know the injury risk. But f*** it. You just gotta cross your fingers and hope for the best. Elite, cost-controlled, or in Sale's case, team-friendly contracts such as the one he just signed are by far the most valuable commodity in the new-modern age of baseball. Which is why I asked for way more than the original proposal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) One of the Talking Heads at ESPN listed a few candidates to be traded, and he had Crain at the top of the list. This was during the Sunday night game, I believe. What can we get for him? Edited June 18, 2013 by oldsox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 11:31 PM) Sale (imo) goes nowhere unless Mike Trout, Bryce Harper, Manny Machado or Buster Posey are coming back. I know the injury risk. But f*** it. You just gotta cross your fingers and hope for the best. Elite, cost-controlled, or in Sale's case, team-friendly contracts such as the one he just signed are by far the most valuable commodity in the new-modern age of baseball. I agree. Say what you want about the state of the Sox right now, but with Sale's contract, he could easily be the ace on the next Sox playoff team. You can't just dump him for unproven minor leaguers, no matter how hyped up they are as prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (TRU @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 09:27 PM) This is going to be unpopular and will never happen, but.. I would offer Chris Sale to the Rangers for Olt and Profar.. Sox would never make that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (TRU @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:27 PM) This is going to be unpopular and will never happen, but.. I would offer Chris Sale to the Rangers for Olt and Profar.. Not a chance in Hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Profar I could work with. Olt looks awful right now. I'd take him for Crain right now, but that's about it. You honestly can't trade Sale for any less than a team's top 3 prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox14 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Unless Crain suffers a devastating breakdown/injury he will likely be traded. I'd like to see us get at least a near-ready prospect and another with a couple years to go. Maybe a trade with the Red Sox for Xander Bogaerts and Garin Cecchini? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Unless you are discussing Sale, you aren't going to be getting Bogaerts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox14 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (bbilek1 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 09:46 AM) LOL ok, ok probably the right response. Trying to provide some specifics because its pretty much agreed-upon that Crain is going to go. Looking for some 3B/SS prospects, with Alexei playing like a bag of doorknobs and the hot corner currently not looking so hot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 There are no long term answers anywhere in the lineup right now, and the system is still pretty weak. For Crain, you just take the best offer you get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (MaggsOrdonez @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 08:26 AM) Unless Crain suffers a devastating breakdown/injury he will likely be traded. I'd like to see us get at least a near-ready prospect and another with a couple years to go. Maybe a trade with the Red Sox for Xander Bogaerts and Garin Cecchini? rofl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:13 AM) One of the Talking Heads at ESPN listed a few candidates to be traded, and he had Crain at the top of the list. This was during the Sunday night game, I believe. What can we get for him? Crain is having a phenomenal year but hard to say what we could get for him. I'd imagine he will be the most sought after Sox so we will be fielding offers from maybe 5-10 different teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (lord chas @ Jun 17, 2013 -> 10:46 PM) Wise does not make $14 million a year Obviously, but I was responding to Greg saying Dunn is the worst player in White Sox history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:02 PM) Obviously, but I was responding to Greg saying Dunn is the worst player in White Sox history. Dunn isn't even the worst player in the last 10 years. Probably not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:23 PM) Dunn isn't even the worst player in the last 10 years. Probably not even close. I know. It's tough for him to be the worst player in White Sox history when he's not even the worst player on the current team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Getting back to the title of this thread all I can say is I hope Hahn doesn't listen to any of us LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Not a huge move, but I'd like to see the SOX grab Collin Cowgill if possible. Good speed, some pop, much better player than Wells or even Danks and Wise. He was just dfa by Mets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted June 19, 2013 Author Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:13 PM) I know. It's tough for him to be the worst player in White Sox history when he's not even the worst player on the current team. Worst player paid over $10 million per season by the Sox. Rios in 2011 would be close. Although some would argue John Danks in 2012, albeit not fair when he was injured for most of last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 04:23 PM) Dunn isn't even the worst player in the last 10 years. Probably not even close. His 2011 was the worst season in White Sox history though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 11:17 PM) Worst player paid over $10 million per season by the Sox. Rios in 2011 would be close. Although some would argue John Danks in 2012, albeit not fair when he was injured for most of last season. Well considering it was only 15 years ago that Albert Belle signed the biggest contract in baseball history for like $50 million, yeah, I'm sure. He's not the biggest free agent bust in White Sox history either. Nobody would argue John Danks in 2012. Nobody. QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 08:13 AM) His 2011 was the worst season in White Sox history though. There is no argument here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balfanman Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 (edited) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,3888104.story Mr. Hahn doesn't seem totally convinced yet, although what else is he going to say publically at this point. It does seem that most of us here at Soxtalk have resigned ourselves to this fate however, as the debate about whether to be sellers or buyers has seemingly morphed into who we sell, for what and when. Edited June 19, 2013 by balfanman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (balfanman @ Jun 19, 2013 -> 09:10 AM) http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseb...0,3888104.story Mr. Hahn doesn't seem totally convinced yet, although what else is he going to say publically at this point. It does seem that most of us here at Soxtalk have resigned ourselves to this fate however, as the debate about whether to be sellers or buyers has seemingly morphed into who we sell, for what and when. No reason to make any deals at this point unless someone is going to overpay. As the deadline gets closer and more injuries and suspensions occur, contenders will get more desperate and pay more of a premium. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jun 18, 2013 -> 02:10 PM) There are no long term answers anywhere in the lineup right now, and the system is still pretty weak. For Crain, you just take the best offer you get. If this is the case I would argue that we keep Crain and sign him for a couple more years. He Jones and Reed, if we believe Addison is the answer to our closer need, can really solidfy that 7-8-9th inning close out of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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