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QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 07:56 PM)
Any manager that watches his team lose game after game after game and makes no adjustments to the batting order is not a very good manager.

I don't know the solution. This team couldn't post a good on base percentage in AAA. Seriously, you aren't going to win hitting/getting on base at the rate the White Sox do and no change in the order would possibly save that. What the Sox need is an injection of young talent (and some financial savings which can be used to invest in some other players to put around some of the infused talent).

 

Hahn has a golden opportunity to really capitalize because as s***ty as we are, we have some individual players who don't fit long term and have good value on the trade market.

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QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 07:56 PM)
Any manager that watches his team lose game after game after game and makes no adjustments to the batting order is not a very good manager.

I understand what you're saying and you're going to get the "all the players suck makes no difference how you change it the team will still suck " response. Your point is when you lose change is necessary and there is no better time to try players in different spots in the lineup to see how they do out of their comfort zones. I've found surprising resistance when I say the same thing. Read the other manager change thread and you'll see that. http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=89284

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Any manager that watches his team lose game after game after game and makes no adjustments to the batting order is not a very good manager.

 

Nine pieces of dung are still nine pieces of dung no matter which order you put them in.

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Robin has moved the lineup around a bit. Viciedo moves up and down according to how hot he is. Gordon has been at 2nd and 9th, Konerko 4th and 5th, Dunn 3rd and 5th, Alexei 2nd 6th and 7th, whoever is catching has been 7th 8th or 9th, Keppinger has been everywhere in the lineup

 

Simply put, nothing has worked.

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QUOTE (Tannerfan @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 09:56 PM)
Any manager that watches his team lose game after game after game and makes no adjustments to the batting order is not a very good manager.

 

In 102 games, the Sox have used 70 different batting orders, and no one order more than 6 times.

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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...ws&c_id=cws

 

By Scott Merkin / MLB.com | 8/4/2013 1:06 P.M. ET

 

 

DETROIT -- Robin Ventura has thought of making a few interesting switches within his everyday lineup to spark a group that has been shut out 11 times and ranks last in the American League in runs scored.

 

"Absolutely. I remember [Adam] Dunn led off before in his career," Ventura said. "Believe me, there's been thoughts of trying to do something that totally breaks the mold. Again, you can't go crazy with it. But there is a certain amount you want to mix things up."

 

Ventura's team completed two-thirds of its season with the worst 108-game record since 1970 (38-70). But as has been stated countless times before, the White Sox failure certainly is not based on lack of effort.

 

"It's one of those you get into a rut offensively, and that's where we're at," Ventura said. "Last night there was a combination of being in a rut and having a guy like [Max] Scherzer throwing that makes it a little more difficult, and everyone is going to blame it on not doing things well offensively. There is a certain amount of giving him credit, too."

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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:20 AM)
In 102 games, the Sox have used 70 different batting orders, and no one order more than 6 times.

And that's pretty much all based on injuries , it means nothing . It seems like a lot in a vacuum but if you put it against other teams 70 in 102 games is nothing.

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