pettie4sox Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 11:21 AM) I thought they were saving him for the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Miley v Bieber is the new Jordan v LeBron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 10:13 PM) Zzzzzzzzzzz As a person - LeBron > Jordan all day, everyday. Only Jordan jockers think he would be "untouchable." The gambling stuff alone would be magnified times infinity in 2014. We have entire cities devoted to gambling. Our society celebrates it. Why do you keep bringing this up as a moral deviation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Also, just so I can be included: LOL at the Beiber v. Jordan comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) Also, just so I can be included: LOL at the Beiber v. Jordan comment. I'll go as far as quoting this and agreeing to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 11:27 AM) Great Steve! That gave me a good laugh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 01:30 PM) We have entire cities devoted to gambling. Our society celebrates it. Why do you keep bringing this up as a moral deviation? His father got wacked not long after the gambling allegations surfaced. Then he retires from the game because he's spent, wants to spend time with his family, etc, only to go play minor league baseball? In 2013-2014, all hell would've broken loose. Hell, there might've been more investigation back then if not for the OJ case taking over everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 01:30 PM) We have entire cities devoted to gambling. Our society celebrates it. Why do you keep bringing this up as a moral deviation? Many people connect his retirement with gambling, ie. the s*** got out of control and Stern told him to pull it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Sacramento currently has the 8th worst record in the league and has been playing better since the Gay trade. We have a shot at getting that pick this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) Sacramento currently has the 8th worst record in the league and has been playing better since the Gay trade. We have a shot at getting that pick this year Maybe the Bulls get 3 firsts this year and can package to move up since Thibs is the anti-tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Other side of the coin is that in a loaded draft sometimes a great player can slip to the middle of the 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 08:49 PM) Sacramento currently has the 8th worst record in the league and has been playing better since the Gay trade. We have a shot at getting that pick this year They need to get to 13 this year in order for it to be conveyed. That would mean they have to finish around .500 to keep up with the likes of Minnesota, Denver and Memphis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleepyWhiteSox Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 06:57 PM) Many people connect his retirement with gambling, ie. the s*** got out of control and Stern told him to pull it together. Haha yeah I'm sure the integrity of the game was more important to stern, the owners, and everyone who made untold amounts of money through Jordan than the ridiculous amounts of money Jordan generated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:46 AM) Haha yeah I'm sure the integrity of the game was more important to stern, the owners, and everyone who made untold amounts of money through Jordan than the ridiculous amounts of money Jordan generated Just as plausible as the GOAT walking away from all of that money in the middle if his prime, right? And then choosing to play minor league baseball when he got that itch to compete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 17, 2014 Author Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (SleepyWhiteSox @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 12:46 AM) Haha yeah I'm sure the integrity of the game was more important to stern, the owners, and everyone who made untold amounts of money through Jordan than the ridiculous amounts of money Jordan generated I kind of laughed at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 07:19 AM) Just as plausible as the GOAT walking away from all of that money in the middle if his prime, right? And then choosing to play minor league baseball when he got that itch to compete When Jordan left to play baseball, Reinsdorf honored his basketball contract and paid Jordan $4 million to be a minor league player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 08:20 AM) When Jordan left to play baseball, Reinsdorf honored his basketball contract and paid Jordan $4 million to be a minor league player. Still, he played baseball. It was so bizarre, I still remember that summer after they won their first three-peat and his father was killed, then the leadup to the following season. It still makes absolutely no sense at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 08:20 AM) When Jordan left to play baseball, Reinsdorf honored his basketball contract and paid Jordan $4 million to be a minor league player. JR still came out way ahead on that deal. MJ made JR a lot more money than JR could pay MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 08:47 AM) JR still came out way ahead on that deal. MJ made JR a lot more money than JR could pay MJ. I don't doubt that at all. The point I was making is that Jordan playing baseball really didn't cost Jordan that much money as he was still getting his basketball salary and still had tons of endorsement deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 08:27 AM) Still, he played baseball. It was so bizarre, I still remember that summer after they won their first three-peat and his father was killed, then the leadup to the following season. It still makes absolutely no sense at all It was a stupid f***ing charade. I was like 12 and thinking to myself "what the hell is this guy doing?" The best basketball player ever blatantly wasting his prime playing a sport he has absolutely no chance in succeeding in. Cost us a potential 8-peat and NO CHANCE of anybody ever matching his resume. Because of that dumb s*** LeBron is only 3-4 years away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 16, 2014 -> 06:57 PM) Many people connect his retirement with gambling, ie. the s*** got out of control and Stern told him to pull it together. And 9/11 was an inside job. The only person i've ever heard equate Jordan's gambling with some kind of Stern reprimand is Bill Simmons. And we all know what kind of access/inside information he has - not much unless it's about the Celtics or post-2005. It would make no sense for Stern to do ANYTHING to Jordan in the 90's. He was growing the brand of the NBA more than anyone could have dreamed. I think it's entirely reasonable for MJ to walk away after dominating the sport for three years AND having a major life altering event like the murder of his father. The thing with baseball was strange, but MJ's a strange, competitive dude. I think it's reasonable to assume that his ego just got in the way and he thought of the whole thing as another challenge he could master. And his retirement in 98 is even more understandable - issues with Krause, he had to follow up on his threats not to return if Phil didn't, three straights championships with the last one being the most grueling, his brand/businesses were booming, he had nothing else to "win" in basketball, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 10:22 AM) And 9/11 was an inside job. The only person i've ever heard equate Jordan's gambling with some kind of Stern reprimand is Bill Simmons. And we all know what kind of access/inside information he has - not much unless it's about the Celtics or post-2005. It would make no sense for Stern to do ANYTHING to Jordan in the 90's. He was growing the brand of the NBA more than anyone could have dreamed. I think it's entirely reasonable for MJ to walk away after dominating the sport for three years AND having a major life altering event like the murder of his father. The thing with baseball was strange, but MJ's a strange, competitive dude. I think it's reasonable to assume that his ego just got in the way and he thought of the whole thing as another challenge he could master. And his retirement in 98 is even more understandable - issues with Krause, he had to follow up on his threats not to return if Phil didn't, three straights championships with the last one being the most grueling, his brand/businesses were booming, he had nothing else to "win" in basketball, etc. I didnt say anytthing about 98, I know what that was about. believe what you want, im not trying to change your mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve9347 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 I'm done with the bulls***. I love my team too much. There's no chance in the Bulls getting in the lottery, so I'm done hoping they lose. This team is playing great against the Wizards. Go Bulls. Get those wins. Jimmy, get those buckets. DJ do yo thang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 18, 2014 Share Posted January 18, 2014 QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Jan 17, 2014 -> 07:59 PM) I'm done with the bulls***. I love my team too much. There's no chance in the Bulls getting in the lottery, so I'm done hoping they lose. This team is playing great against the Wizards. Go Bulls. Get those wins. Jimmy, get those buckets. DJ do yo thang. Good jinx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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