soxsoxsoxsox Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) Man, get Roy Hibbert off the court. He's beyond embarrassing. 0pts 0 rebounds 5 fouls Wizards going to the conference finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:28 PM) Man, get Roy Hibbert off the court. He's beyond embarrassing. Either he is hurt somehow, or he wants out. Embarrassing is right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:33 PM) 0pts 0 rebounds 5 fouls Wizards going to the conference finals The guy makes me look like a fool last year in the playoffs and this is what he's become? I'm done. And the Wizards have a chance to be really good. Their backcourt is just gross and should get better. Otto Porter, the 3rd pick last year, was hurt so you can't really judge him yet (though he's an athletic freak). A big FA signing and this team is right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (buhbuhburrrrlz @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:33 PM) 0pts 0 rebounds 5 fouls Wizards going to the conference finals They actually could give the heat some issues too. They have good size with Nene and Gortat, and I'm don't think the heat have anyone to keep wall from penetrating. Edited May 6, 2014 by Boogua Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 How hilarious would that be if the wizards squeak through the east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:48 PM) How hilarious would that be if the wizards squeak through the east There's a difference between issues and actually winning the series. Once Indy collapsed, that was the end of the suspense (for the east). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:38 PM) The guy makes me look like a fool last year in the playoffs and this is what he's become? I'm done. And the Wizards have a chance to be really good. Their backcourt is just gross and should get better. Otto Porter, the 3rd pick last year, was hurt so you can't really judge him yet (though he's an athletic freak). A big FA signing and this team is right there. You gotta love the Wall/Beal combo, but I'm not seeing a juggernaut in the making. Porter's not the kind of guy I would call a freak athlete. He has great length, but he's not particularly quick, doesn't take guys off the dribble much and isn't an explosive leaper (which is why he only had a 27 inch no-step vert at the combine). He kind of reminded me of Luol Deng at Georgetown. That's not the worst thing in the world for a guy on a rookie contract though. They're probably going to need him to produce too. Gortat and Ariza are both free agents this year and were a big part of them being decent this year. If they both walk, the Wiz would have about $19 million in space, but would need 7 more players. I would guess that it's quite a bit more likely that they overpay one or both of those guys (or someone else) than they add a stud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (ZoomSlowik @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:54 PM) You gotta love the Wall/Beal combo, but I'm not seeing a juggernaut in the making. Porter's not the kind of guy I would call a freak athlete. He has great length, but he's not particularly quick, doesn't take guys off the dribble much and isn't an explosive leaper (which is why he only had a 27 inch no-step vert at the combine). He kind of reminded me of Luol Deng at Georgetown. That's not the worst thing in the world for a guy on a rookie contract though. They're probably going to need him to produce too. Gortat and Ariza are both free agents this year and were a big part of them being decent this year. If they both walk, the Wiz would have about $19 million in space, but would need 7 more players. I would guess that it's quite a bit more likely that they overpay one or both of those guys (or someone else) than they add a stud. Whoa, I didn't say juggernaut. I just don't think this is one of those fluke playoff runs, that's all. They're set in the back-court. Porter has a 27-inch vert? I don't believe that for s***. And yes, their FO is going to have to be smart. That's the biggest difference between the two conferences. Teams are just run much better in the west. Wait, a no-step vert? What was his overall vert? Edited May 6, 2014 by Jordan4life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Chris Paul has come ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Jordan4life @ May 5, 2014 -> 09:04 PM) Whoa, I didn't say juggernaut. I just don't think this is one of those fluke playoff runs, that's all. They're set in the back-court. Porter has a 27-inch vert? I don't believe that for s***. And yes, their FO is going to have to be smart. That's the biggest difference between the two conferences. Teams are just run much better in the west. Wait, a no-step vert? What was his overall vert? His overall vert was a 36, which is solid for a guy with his length. I choose to look at no-step vert because IMO it's a better gauge of "explosive athleticism". His vertical is kinda comparable to Tyler Hansbrough (27.5/34), who is far from explosive. Then you look at Blake Griffin, who only had a 35.5 inch max vert but a 32 inch no-step. A lot of guys can get up if they get some momentum. I've seen guys that play for Northwestern throw down vicious dunks if they get a step or two. The combine is far from the bible, all you have to do is look at Kevin Durant's awful testing numbers (26.5/33.5, still don't understand that one). You also have to adjust expectations relative to size (ie DeAndre Jordan only had 26/30.5 verticals, but he also had a freakish 9'5" standing reach so he doesn't need much to get way above the rim). The problem is "athleticism" is somewhat subjective. OJ Mayo tested just as well, if not better, than Westbrook and Rose, but doesn't play nearly as explosively. I just threw it in there as a frame of reference. My main opinion is from watching him half a dozen times at Georgetown and seeing him rely mostly on mid-range shots. The guys at Draftexpress had some similar comments. Edited May 6, 2014 by ZoomSlowik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MexSoxFan#1 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Meanwhile, old washed up Drew Gooden played the same anount of minutes that Hibbert played and got 12 pts and 13 rebs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I'd really like the way Ariza would look in the Bulls lineup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2014 -> 10:05 PM) I'd really like the way Ariza would look in the Bulls lineup I don't know if he can replicate what he did this year shooting the ball down the road. If he can put up a .560 TS%, then yeah, he'd look great. But I'm not sure he can do it again given what he's done in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoomSlowik Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ May 5, 2014 -> 10:05 PM) I'd really like the way Ariza would look in the Bulls lineup I would be very wary of paying him legit money (ie more than MLE). He's a career 35% three point shooter that makes .9 per game and he hit 2.3 per game this year on a 40.7% clip. Actually, his career high in his 9 seasons outside of Washington is 33.4%. John Wall just sets corner 3's up for him constantly, and without that crazy 3-point efficiency he's basically Jimmy Butler with fewer FT's. I don't see it working out terribly well if someone besides Washington signs him. The last team to give him a legit contract (the Rockets) regretted it almost immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Yeah I don't know that I'd want to pay him market value, but I would like to see what he would do in Chicago just in the abstract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Apparently the Pacers vets pulled Roy to the side and told him he is being a b**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ May 5, 2014 -> 08:48 PM) How hilarious would that be if the wizards squeak through the east No one in the East is beating Miami. Forget it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2014 -> 09:23 AM) No one in the East is beating Miami. Forget it. I didnt say it WOULD happen, merely that it would be funny if it did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 The thing about jump shooting teams is they seem impossible to beat when they are on, as Washington is, but then they get cold. NeNe has to be hitting like 70% of his 12 ft jumpers. That's insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2014 Author Share Posted May 6, 2014 ChiTribSports @ChiTribSports 5m Durant named NBA's MVP; Noah 4th in voting http://trib.in/1iTMmdx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 6, 2014 -> 10:31 AM) ChiTribSports @ChiTribSports 5m Durant named NBA's MVP; Noah 4th in voting http://trib.in/1iTMmdx Seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 I see you mentioned Joakim Noah was 4th yet failed to mention that Kyle Korver was 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Suppose we get Melo to agree to come to the Bulls. Boozer amnestied. Still have to move Taj. Taj+2 first round draft picks = top 5 pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Unless it's for an already defined superstar or another top 5 pick this year, no one is trading a top 5 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted May 6, 2014 Share Posted May 6, 2014 Golden State waves goodbye to Mark Jackson. I have a feeling some crazy stuff is gonna come out of that situation, that coach recording everything and white mamba being sent away is just weird http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/w...-lacob/8771233/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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