Leonard Zelig Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 10:00 AM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 31m Red Sox are doing background work on Jake Peavy, who pitches against AT today. Arizona, SF, Colorado also in the discussions. Deal breaker if they find out he sang "Go Cubs Go" 6 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Lemon_44 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 12:35 PM) It seems like there is too much importance being put on this start for Peavy. Teams aren't going to base Peavy's value on 1 start. As long as he shows he's healthy, it doesn't matter whether he throws a shutout or gets shellacked. If he's hitting the numbers on the gun and able to throw all his pitches are what the teams are going to want to see. It's not like if he throws 7 scoreless inning that Boston, or whoever, is going to start adding pieces to the mix. Teams know by now the limits they are willing to stretch for just about any player. But all that's going to happen in this start. He'll either hit is numbers and pitches or he won't in this start...Yes, it's important. What if he doesn't have his velocity and he can't throw key pitches for strikes? Wouldn't you say that's a negative re his value? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 This is a nice piece about Peavy's trade value by Jon Hey man. I think we could get lucky and receive a nice little haul for Peavy. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heym...the-market-star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 01:37 PM) This is a nice piece about Peavy's trade value by Jon Hey man. I think we could get lucky and receive a nice little haul for Peavy. http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/blog/jon-heym...the-market-star That's actually a great write-up. I'm shocked he didn't mention the 2015 option a team would have on Peavy, but the point remains the same. He's one of the top 2 starting pitchers in a thin pitching market and is more than just a rental. There should be a half dozen teams fighting over him the next 11 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 01:51 PM) That's actually a great write-up. I'm shocked he didn't mention the 2015 option a team would have on Peavy, but the point remains the same. He's one of the top 2 starting pitchers in a thin pitching market and is more than just a rental. There should be a half dozen teams fighting over him the next 11 days. It's a player option. "$15M Player option for 2015 if he 1) has 400 IP in 2013-14, including 190 IP in 2014, and 2) is not on the disabled list at the end of the 2014 season." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 This was supposedly the package agreed upon in the Garza deal. This should bode well for the Sox trading Peavy as this is a nice haul Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 3m #Cubs-#Rangers stalled deal was Garza + another #Cub to #Rangers for Neil Ramirez, Luis Sardinas, Mike Olt, CJ Edwards per @JeffWilson_FWST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:38 PM) This was supposedly the package agreed upon in the Garza deal. This should bode well for the Sox trading Peavy as this is a nice haul Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 3m #Cubs-#Rangers stalled deal was Garza + another #Cub to #Rangers for Neil Ramirez, Luis Sardinas, Mike Olt, CJ Edwards per @JeffWilson_FWST Kind of difficult to rate that deal without knowing who the other Cub is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:52 PM) Kind of difficult to rate that deal without knowing who the other Cub is. Not really. It wasn't Castro or Rizzo. Those are really only 2 ML pieces that matter. It was speculated that it could have been Dejesus, Schierholtz, or even James Russell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:54 PM) Not really. It wasn't Castro or Rizzo. Those are really only 2 ML pieces that matter. It was speculated that it could have been Dejesus, Schierholtz, or even James Russell. Yeah, well see, in that case, you know who the other Cub may have been. Which backs up my statement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:38 PM) This was supposedly the package agreed upon in the Garza deal. This should bode well for the Sox trading Peavy as this is a nice haul Chris Cotillo @ChrisCotillo 3m #Cubs-#Rangers stalled deal was Garza + another #Cub to #Rangers for Neil Ramirez, Luis Sardinas, Mike Olt, CJ Edwards per @JeffWilson_FWST That is avery nice haul. If Peavy pitches well today, and a package of him and Crain. It would get a lot more than that in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 4m Teams scouting #WhiteSox-#Braves today: TOR, BOS, SEA, NYY, BAL, AZ. Not all looking at Peavy. NYY on normal coverage. AZ not pursuing him. I'm not buying it re:Arizona Edited July 20, 2013 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 4m Teams scouting #WhiteSox-#Braves today: TOR, BOS, SEA, NYY, BAL, AZ. Not all looking at Peavy. NYY on normal coverage. AZ not pursuing him. I'm not buying it re:Arizona I sure hope you are right. The White Sox match up quite well with AZ as trade partners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:09 PM) It's a player option. "$15M Player option for 2015 if he 1) has 400 IP in 2013-14, including 190 IP in 2014, and 2) is not on the disabled list at the end of the 2014 season." Wow, did not realize that. Thanks for posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemon_44 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 02:23 PM) But all that's going to happen in this start. He'll either hit is numbers and pitches or he won't in this start...Yes, it's important. What if he doesn't have his velocity and he can't throw key pitches for strikes? Wouldn't you say that's a negative re his value? I guess I should have said not too much rests on the results. I agree, it's important he has to have his velocity and movevment and that's all that matters. If he's hitting 90-94 and gets lit up for 10 runs, it's not going to hurt his trade value. Whereas, if he shuts them down for 7 innings with zero stuff, it's not going to help the cause either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 25s Scouts are going to walk away impressed by Peavy, whose velocity reached the low-90s; two earned runs in six innings, 3 strikeouts, no walks Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Like to hear that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Come on AZ! Give us Owings and Holmberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 06:18 PM) Come on AZ! Give us Owings and Holmberg I want Eaton and Davidson, sox have some interesting MI prospects half a season to a season away.(sanchez, semien and johnson) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 06:24 PM) I want Eaton and Davidson, sox have some interesting MI prospects half a season to a season away.(sanchez, semien and johnson) If we can somehow get 2 of those guys in any deal. I'll be ecstatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I'm not especially interested in Holmberg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m One more note on Peavy: Scout from #STLCards also attended his start today. Like all scouts there, could have been looking at others too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 07:47 PM) Ken Rosenthal @Ken_Rosenthal 1m One more note on Peavy: Scout from #STLCards also attended his start today. Like all scouts there, could have been looking at others too. Now that's juicy. Love their system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 I'd be shocked if Adam Eaton isn't the main target from any trade with Arizona. He fits all of the needs this team has been looking for a leadoff hitter since Scotty Pods in 05, except better defense and more line drive power than just slap hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 05:24 PM) I want Eaton and Davidson, sox have some interesting MI prospects half a season to a season away.(sanchez, semien and johnson) I feel like Owings would play once Alexei is gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 07:54 PM) I'd be shocked if Adam Eaton isn't the main target from any trade with Arizona. He fits all of the needs this team has been looking for a leadoff hitter since Scotty Pods in 05, except better defense and more line drive power than just slap hitter. De Aza has been a better "lead-off hitter" each of the past 2 years than Podsednik was in '05. I know we all love to glorify players from the '05 team, and Podsednik certainly had his role, but his offense isn't the reason that team won the World Series. Pods in '05: .290/.351/.349 88 wRC+ De Aza this year: .270/.328/.437 105 wRC+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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