TaylorStSox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:55 PM) Most everyone has money right now. It appeared to be a pretty big issue at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:56 PM) Also, I might be crazy and he has looked a lot better the past couple days, but unless Viciedo just murders the ball for the rest of the season, I see him being traded in the offseason. Or at the very least, not a projected starter (maybe a platoon DH/1B/LF type). I think he is still very much a part of our plans Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Don't know much about this kids besides the good contact and absurd BB/K rate. Is a slightly lesser version of Carlos Lee a good projection for this kid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Thanks for the entertainment. kind of makes you forget the Sox have lost five straight and eight of nine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:56 PM) Mitchell currently on the 40 man roster; probably not so next year. Why? Thee trades will clear spots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Man, we're getting a ton for Peavy if we get this guy who throws 100 mph. Is Hahn a genius?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:53 PM) End is near for Mitchell or Walker. We need to stop drafting outfielders who only have athleticism and not so much baseball talent (I say this right after we get Garcia...figures). Mitchell hasn't worked out and neither has Walker. Hawkins is a K machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:56 PM) @BenBadler 29s Red Sox RHP Francellis Montas has been told he's going to the White Sox. Results have been erratic but he's touched 100 mph Coop will fix him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 JB Wendelken and Francellis Montas of Greenville in the deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:56 PM) @BenBadler 29s Red Sox RHP Francellis Montas has been told he's going to the White Sox. Results have been erratic but he's touched 100 mph So we got another Soptic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 07:56 PM) @BenBadler 29s Red Sox RHP Francellis Montas has been told he's going to the White Sox. Results have been erratic but he's touched 100 mph 20 years old in A ball/ 5.70 ERA/ 96K/32BB in 85.1 IP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (lord chas @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:57 PM) Coop will fix him Sounds like a guy that will probably shoot up the minors when/if he is converted to reliever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What to make of the hardest throwing pitcher in the Red Sox system, at a time when he’s beginning to string together some dominant starts? Francellis Montas has long had a reputation that preceded him. Even before he pitched in the States, word started to circulate about the teenager who could reach triple-digits with his fastball. Still, in his first couple seasons in pro ball, he struggled to harness his power, as evidenced by the fact that he walked 30 (the same number that he struck out) in 34 1/3 innings in the Dominican Summer League in 2010 and 2011. Last year, however, he took a considerable step forward while spending most of the year in the Rookie Level Gulf Coast League. He struck out 41 and walked just 12 in 40 2/3 innings. This year, despite a 1-4 record and 5.08 ERA, he’s been even better than that while facing more age-appropriate competition in the Single-A South Atlantic League. The 20-year-old Montas continued what has been a string of eye-opening starts by tossing five innings in which he permitted just one run on one hit (a solo homer), walked one and struck out eight. On the year, Montas now has 49 strikeouts and just 10 walks in 39 innings. His 11.3 strikeouts per nine rank 18th in all of minor league baseball. Of the 17 players who are ahead of him on the list, only one (19-year-old Tyler Glasnow) is younger. Of the 58 players with 10.0 strikeouts per nine innings (or more) this year, his rate of 4.9 strikeouts per walk ranks sixth. So, he’s in a somewhat elite class when it comes to having power stuff (a fastball that, as a starter, sits in the mid- to high-90s, along with a slider that has made considerable progress to become a wipeout pitch) while having the willingness to attack the strike zone with it. And Tuesday continued what has been an increasingly impressive stretch for the right-hander. In his last five starts, he’s punched out 31 and walked just four in 23 innings (12.1 strikeouts and 1.6 walks per nine) with a 3.13 ERA. Still, because Montas is in the South Atlantic League, pitching against hitters who have rarely experienced the kind of velocity and power stuff he brings to the table, such numbers can be challenging to interpret. For instance, on Tuesday, he reached 100 mph, but ultimately, threw strikes with just half of the fastballs he threw. Similarly, a pitcher who possesses a legitimate breaking ball in Single-A will typically get tons of swings and misses from players whose eyes are relatively untrained for pitches with such movement. It’s also worth noting that Montas, while showing some feel for a changeup, currently looks more like a two-pitch bullpen arm. But if the 20-year-old is able to learn to change speeds or generate better downward movement to improve his groundball rates and address some of his homer-prone tendencies (he’s now yielded seven in 39 innings), the upside is undeniably considerable for such an arm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:56 PM) Also, I might be crazy and he has looked a lot better the past couple days, but unless Viciedo just murders the ball for the rest of the season, I see him being traded in the offseason. Or at the very least, not a projected starter (maybe a platoon DH/1B/LF type). He's up around .260 with his obp .50 above the BA. He's coming around. It looks like he's just trying to put the ball in play right now. Hopefully he'll continue to make more contact and start turning on more balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Phil Rogers had the names before anyone else. #boom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:58 PM) 20 years old in A ball/ 5.70 ERA/ 96K/32BB in 85.1 IP Those peripherals aren't bad actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 08:58 PM) So we got another Soptic. I like it. Our org has a good track record at developing pitching. I'd rather we get raw arms then raw bats by and large. We have better odds at converting the raw arms, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:58 AM) Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Ultimately a bad deal for us, but at least we made one. I can now sleep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Who is Wendelkan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (PolishPrince34 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:58 PM) Red Sox report Wendelken, Montas, Rondon to CWS Montas is the 36th best prospect in their system coming into this year. The other two guys weren't listed on SoxProspects.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:58 PM) What to make of the hardest throwing pitcher in the Red Sox system, at a time when he’s beginning to string together some dominant starts? Francellis Montas has long had a reputation that preceded him. Even before he pitched in the States, word started to circulate about the teenager who could reach triple-digits with his fastball. Still, in his first couple seasons in pro ball, he struggled to harness his power, as evidenced by the fact that he walked 30 (the same number that he struck out) in 34 1/3 innings in the Dominican Summer League in 2010 and 2011. Last year, however, he took a considerable step forward while spending most of the year in the Rookie Level Gulf Coast League. He struck out 41 and walked just 12 in 40 2/3 innings. This year, despite a 1-4 record and 5.08 ERA, he’s been even better than that while facing more age-appropriate competition in the Single-A South Atlantic League. The 20-year-old Montas continued what has been a string of eye-opening starts by tossing five innings in which he permitted just one run on one hit (a solo homer), walked one and struck out eight. On the year, Montas now has 49 strikeouts and just 10 walks in 39 innings. His 11.3 strikeouts per nine rank 18th in all of minor league baseball. Of the 17 players who are ahead of him on the list, only one (19-year-old Tyler Glasnow) is younger. Of the 58 players with 10.0 strikeouts per nine innings (or more) this year, his rate of 4.9 strikeouts per walk ranks sixth. So, he’s in a somewhat elite class when it comes to having power stuff (a fastball that, as a starter, sits in the mid- to high-90s, along with a slider that has made considerable progress to become a wipeout pitch) while having the willingness to attack the strike zone with it. And Tuesday continued what has been an increasingly impressive stretch for the right-hander. In his last five starts, he’s punched out 31 and walked just four in 23 innings (12.1 strikeouts and 1.6 walks per nine) with a 3.13 ERA. Still, because Montas is in the South Atlantic League, pitching against hitters who have rarely experienced the kind of velocity and power stuff he brings to the table, such numbers can be challenging to interpret. For instance, on Tuesday, he reached 100 mph, but ultimately, threw strikes with just half of the fastballs he threw. Similarly, a pitcher who possesses a legitimate breaking ball in Single-A will typically get tons of swings and misses from players whose eyes are relatively untrained for pitches with such movement. It’s also worth noting that Montas, while showing some feel for a changeup, currently looks more like a two-pitch bullpen arm. But if the 20-year-old is able to learn to change speeds or generate better downward movement to improve his groundball rates and address some of his homer-prone tendencies (he’s now yielded seven in 39 innings), the upside is undeniably considerable for such an arm. Sounds like a Jenks report at the same age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:00 PM) Who is Wendelkan? http://www.soxprospects.com/players/wendelken-jb.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chunk23 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Absolutely terrible return for Peavy, most likely because they were unwilling to assume any of Peavy's contract. The only saving grace is if this leads to better returns for Alexei and Rios and I'm skeptical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ben Badler @BenBadler 1m I like the Montas addition as an add-on for the White Sox. Not sure if he's a starter but the guy has freakish arm strength and misses bats. Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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