harfman77 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Mar 1, 2014 -> 09:41 AM) Hoffman's stat line so far this season: 0-1, 21.1 IP, 14 H, 8 R, 6 ER, 6 BBs, 26 Ks, 2.53 ERA, .182 BAA Beede's stat line so far this season 3-0, 18 IP, 5 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 5 BBs, 24 Ks, 1.00 ERA, .085 BAA Newcomb is a guy that could sneak up there 0-1 10.2 IP 6 H, 1 R, 0ER, 6 BBs, 15Ks, 0 ERA, .167 BAA A fastball that will touch 97 mph along with a plus slider and average change could see Newcomb shoot up draft boards, though he will face inferior competition all spring, which will make it hard for scouts to get a great read on him. Kind of a Chris Sale profile, though a lite version. Last season 5-4 72 IP, 53 H, 39 R, 30 ER, 37 BB, 92 K, 3.75 ERA 11.5 K/9 1.25 WHIP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) Watching this video - His frame reminds me of a young version of former White Sox closer Bobby Jenks. His delivery is kind of jerky? Too many potential red flags for my taste at #3 overall. Throwing gas will get you noticed in HS, but in the pros he's gotta have some great secondary stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I dont think we will like anyone by the time June gets here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 01:13 PM) ESPN tidbits on Kolek: "It's a deep group," an NL East scout said. "You've got guys like Tyler Kolek, who have the imposing size and fastball, but you wonder about the projection and if the secondary offerings are good enough to make him a legit ace. Kolek was 92-98 in his outing against Lumberton HS, striking out 11 in six no-hit innings. His off-speed pitches were just average, but the impressive arm-strength that was on display at several events in August was clearly still there on Monday. Kolek doesn’t offer much in terms of projection and some scouts worry about his already massive 6-foot-5, 250-pound frame, but a fastball that will touch triple-digits and a curve that will flash plus also has some scouts salivating. Kolek is already massive at 6-foot-5 and roughly 250 pounds, but hit 100 mph last week with a better slider and curveball than he'd shown last summer. The lack of secondary pitches kinda scares me, but these can be taught since he is only 18. I'd like to see him drop a few LBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 02:25 PM) His delivery is kind of jerky? Too many potential red flags for my taste at #3 overall. Throwing gas will get you noticed in HS, but in the pros he's gotta have some great secondary stuff too. I think his delivery is fine. He has good trunk flexion and flexibility. One reason it looks a little funny is that he doesn't stride straight. His front foot lands too far closed than normal, so it looks like he is spinning a bit. As for the weight, "Lady, I ain't no athlete i'm a baseball player." If the kid can throw he can throw. The development of the secondary pitches is the concern. It looks like he drops a little on the off speed stuff. If someone thinks he can be taught it, I'd take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 I dont think we will like anyone by the time June gets here. No, we will like exactly two guys-the guys who go first and second, and then we will all complain about not pitching Axelrod more and Sale less in August and September so the Sox could get the 2nd pick instead of the 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 06:58 AM) No, we will like exactly two guys-the guys who go first and second, and then we will all complain about not pitching Axelrod more and Sale less in August and September so the Sox could get the 2nd pick instead of the 3rd. Ha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Sox/Cubs watch Kolek http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/cubs/chi-cubs-white-sox-watch-top-prep-pitching-prospect-20140307,0,6562063.story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Todays games of interest: Carlos Rodon vs Notre Dame 2 pm CT Jeff Hoffman vs Marshall (PPD) tomorrow at 11 am CT Tyler Beede vs Winthrop 6:30 pm CT Newcomb looks like he is not picthing this weekend in a three game series with East Tenn State, so maybe a red flag there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 11:25 AM) Todays games of interest: Carlos Rodon vs Notre Dame 2 pm CT Jeff Hoffman vs Marshall (PPD) tomorrow at 11 am CT Tyler Beede vs Winthrop 6:30 pm CT Newcomb looks like he is not picthing this weekend in a three game series with East Tenn State, so maybe a red flag there. Rodon can be watched on ESPN3 today. It will be archived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFirebird Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (ptatc @ Mar 6, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) I think his delivery is fine. He has good trunk flexion and flexibility. One reason it looks a little funny is that he doesn't stride straight. His front foot lands too far closed than normal, so it looks like he is spinning a bit. As for the weight, "Lady, I ain't no athlete i'm a baseball player." If the kid can throw he can throw. The development of the secondary pitches is the concern. It looks like he drops a little on the off speed stuff. If someone thinks he can be taught it, I'd take him. Good analysis. I am sure they have Coop watch all these kids on tape and get his input and would be involved in the interview process to determine if they can be taught. I trust their scouting of pitching. Hitting is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Mar 7, 2014 -> 11:47 AM) Rodon can be watched on ESPN3 today. It will be archived. Rodon and NC State now also PPD until 1 PM tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Beede real strong again last night vs. Winthrop: 7IP 6H 1ER 0BB 9K. Having a nice year. Our Guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Mar 8, 2014 -> 08:04 AM) Beede real strong again last night vs. Winthrop: 7IP 6H 1ER 0BB 9K. Having a nice year. Our Guy? Maybe so. Aaron Nola has been awesome early on as well. Nola wasn't really seen as a top 5 type guy prior to the year though. Dan Kirby @DanMKirby 11m LSU has outscored their opponents 40-0 when Aaron Nola has started this year. In 4 starts: 27 IP, 0 ER, 13 H, 36 K/2 BB. #MLBDraft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 (edited) J.P. @Jaypers413 12h Excellent start for TCU's Brandon Finnegan. 9 IP, 4 H, 2 R, 1 BB, 12 K. On the year, 2.12 ERA, 29.2 innings, 21 hits and 45/6 K to BB. My main reservation about Nola is the lack of dominant stuff. At No. 3, can you really take a middle-of-the-rotation guy even if he is a safe bet to reach his potential? Then again, Finnegan whom I really like, could end up a reliever. Beede definitely looks to be the guy who has leaped into the conversation at No. 3 with Hoffman and Kolek. Edited March 8, 2014 by maggsmaggs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Nola would be a 2nd round pick for us, but he likely won't be there. He's a good pitcher, but not someone i'm taking at #3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 I've seen Hoffman pitch and Nola many times- no to both. HOffman has the stuff, but hasn't put it together. NOLA doesn't have the stuff for #3 pick in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Mar 8, 2014 -> 11:57 AM) http://www.cstv.com/gametracker/launch/gt_...l?event=1334924 Hoffman struggling with his control through 3 IP at home against Marshall. 3 IP, 5 BB, 2 H, 3 ER, HBP, 5 K, 63 pitches, 36 strikes. Beede is looking stronger and stronger for that number 3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Yeah, from what I've seen from Nola, he seems solid but not the type of guy you take at 3. I could see him at the end of the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Beede has a musical side as a rapper. Black Jack for the hip-hop generation? And I learned it's pronounced BEE-dee, not Bead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 Hoffman still awaiting his first good statistical season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 After thinking long and hard about the draft, Tyler Kolek has to be the pick at #3. The Sox really need to pair Sale with another legit stud in the rotation. (If Kolek is not there, I would take Alex Jackson) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Mar 10, 2014 -> 01:02 AM) After thinking long and hard about the draft, Tyler Kolek has to be the pick at #3. The Sox really need to pair Sale with another legit stud in the rotation. (If Kolek is not there, I would take Alex Jackson) Completely agree. #3 is not the place you make a "safer" pick. At #3, you need a star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 QUOTE (staxx @ Mar 10, 2014 -> 07:47 AM) Completely agree. #3 is not the place you make a "safer" pick. At #3, you need a star. A signable star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted March 10, 2014 Share Posted March 10, 2014 QUOTE (oldsox @ Mar 10, 2014 -> 08:31 AM) A signable star. If you're picking Kolek or Jackson at #3 you make sure that you sign them. It would be a huge blow to this organization if they failed to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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