DirtySox Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:49 PM) What major league comps are being made with/about Hoffman? Verlander as a comp is the most common I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:49 PM) Sounds a lot like the same kinds of things that were said about Zach Greinke coming into the draft. What major league comps are being made with/about Hoffman? I heard Verlander...not sure if that was from Law or somebody else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:47 PM) Interesting take from Keith Law. He's very down on Rodon and always been pretty excited about the athleticism and potential of Hoffman. Nick (Chicago) Rick Hahn has stated the White Sox are targeting a college pitcher with their #3 pick in the draft. Who offers more upside Hoffman or Beede? Klaw (1:04 PM) Hoffman. More velocity, great athlete, underdeveloped as a pitcher right now. Beede's the safer pick of the two, but I would bet that if they have both guys staring them in the face (and Rodon too) they'd take Hoffman. This very much reiterates what Bucket has been trumpeting. I still like Hoffman personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:52 PM) This very much reiterates what Bucket has been trumpeting. I still like Hoffman personally. I like Hoffman as well. I have also seen Kevin Gausman mentioned as a comp as far as body type and repertoire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:38 PM) I know people have said he's probably a Boras guy, but man, spending an extra year in college because you needed $8 million instead of $5.7 million, when you're a pitcher, just sounds absolutley nuts. Especially when you at the escalation between your arb years and free agent years. You want to get the majors as quick as humanly possible if you really want to get paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:52 PM) This very much reiterates what Bucket has been trumpeting. I still like Hoffman personally. Sox also might steer away from a Boras guy because they won't be able to sign one of his clients to a Sale- or Quintana-like deal. Boras is a guy that will play the contract out year by year, so that his client can get to FA ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 01:31 PM) Sox also might steer away from a Boras guy because they won't be able to sign one of his clients to a Sale- or Quintana-like deal. Boras is a guy that will play the contract out year by year, so that his client can get to FA ASAP. Worked well for Crede and Jenks, not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:49 AM) What major league comps are being made with/about Hoffman? The only ones I have seen seem to suggest Verlander and/or Wainwright and pro comps for Hoffman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 02:37 PM) Worked well for Crede and Jenks, not. Jenks' agents were Genske and Felder, and the Sox were never comfortable giving him a long term deal because he never got serious about getting himself in better shape. They were smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 12:52 PM) This very much reiterates what Bucket has been trumpeting. I still like Hoffman personally. Throw out the college stats. You scout on what can be. Hoffman has the most upside. Verlander & Wainwright are legit comps. He's a stellar athlete with velo, body and feel. Flashes 70FB/60CB/55CH already. Lauman has been all over him since before the cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 10:09 PM) Throw out the college stats. You scout on what can be. Hoffman has the most upside. Verlander & Wainwright are legit comps. He's a stellar athlete with velo, body and feel. Flashes 70FB/60CB/55CH already. Lauman has been all over him since before the cape. So...plan on the Sox taking Hoffman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 10:01 AM) So...plan on the Sox taking Hoffman? I trust in the White Sox scouting process and research for this pick. I honestly would be happy with any of the top five guys (Rodon, Aiken, Hoffman, Kolek, Beede) and whoever they take they obviously believe in. If Hoffman's struggles this year let him drop to the Sox and he is their guy all along, all the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 QUOTE (bucket-of-suck @ Apr 3, 2014 -> 11:09 PM) Throw out the college stats. You scout on what can be. Hoffman has the most upside. Verlander & Wainwright are legit comps. He's a stellar athlete with velo, body and feel. Flashes 70FB/60CB/55CH already. Lauman has been all over him since before the cape. So with all that said, the Marlins will surely take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 (edited) Beede struggling again tonight vs Tennessee. Hoffman to face Rice now. Edited April 4, 2014 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 2h #ECU RHP Jeff Hoffman as advertised in the first. Moved around 94-96 FB, flashed a plus 77-80 CB, 86-87 CH just OK. #mlbdraft @ECUBaseball Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 1h #ECU RHP Jeff Hoffman touched 97 in the second, doing a terrific job of keeping FB low in the zone. That CB has a lot depth too. #mlbdraft Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 1h Really impressed with Jeff Hoffman's ability to change speeds/feel. One beautiful AB last frame: 97 FB, 82 CB, 82 CB (both plus). #mlbdraft Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 1h After his changeup was just okay in the first inning, Jeff Hoffman's CH has gotten much better since. Still showcasing 95-97 velo, too. Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 22m #ECU RHP Jeff Hoffman just sick in 6th. ++ CB, CB, then upper 80s CH for a K. He motions the #Rice hitter to "get off the field". #mlbdraft Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 22m The book on Jeff Hoffman was that if he can get into a groove, he's almost unhittable. He did that early in this one, has looked tremendous. Expand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:52 PM) Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 2h #ECU RHP Jeff Hoffman as advertised in the first. Moved around 94-96 FB, flashed a plus 77-80 CB, 86-87 CH just OK. #mlbdraft @ECUBaseball Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 1h #ECU RHP Jeff Hoffman touched 97 in the second, doing a terrific job of keeping FB low in the zone. That CB has a lot depth too. #mlbdraft Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 1h Really impressed with Jeff Hoffman's ability to change speeds/feel. One beautiful AB last frame: 97 FB, 82 CB, 82 CB (both plus). #mlbdraft Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 1h After his changeup was just okay in the first inning, Jeff Hoffman's CH has gotten much better since. Still showcasing 95-97 velo, too. Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 22m #ECU RHP Jeff Hoffman just sick in 6th. ++ CB, CB, then upper 80s CH for a K. He motions the #Rice hitter to "get off the field". #mlbdraft Expand Kendall Rogers @KendallRogersPG 22m The book on Jeff Hoffman was that if he can get into a groove, he's almost unhittable. He did that early in this one, has looked tremendous. Expand Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 07:27 PM) Beede struggling again tonight vs Tennessee. Hoffman to face Rice now. Was this at Tennessee? Y'all could have sent me in person if it was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 5, 2014 Author Share Posted April 5, 2014 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) Was this at Tennessee? Y'all could have sent me in person if it was here. Only if you can send reports back after the game from Krystal or Waffle House. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 4, 2014 -> 08:18 PM) Was this at Tennessee? Y'all could have sent me in person if it was here. Yep, the series is in Knoxville this weekend. I didn't even think about it, but yeah, would have been nice to have you there in person. Dang. Edited April 5, 2014 by dasox24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 It's early but Hoffman sounds like the guy to me. I will actually be kind of disappointed if he's not around. 2 months out though it seems like Rodon to Houston and 1 of the HS arms to Miami. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Two months from tonight. Big arm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Rodon with 8 innings, 6 runs (3 earned) and 5 K in a loss today vs Clemson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 I see no reason to take Hoffman at 3 and if it is with Rodon on the board, it is unconscionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackSox13 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 Isn't Rodon's defense pretty bad? Errors just make the pitcher work even harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 5, 2014 -> 06:14 PM) I see no reason to take Hoffman at 3 and if it is with Rodon on the board, it is unconscionable Kay. You should probably expound on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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