GGajewski18 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 03:06 PM) Last 5 #3 picks: 2013 - Jonathan Gray 2012 - Mike Zunino 2011 - Trevor Bauer 2010 - Manny Machado 2009 - Donovan Tate So.... Two appear to be busts, one is elite, and the last two are too early to tell though Zunino is moving toward the bust column, but still has a lot of time to recover. After Rodon and Hoffman, there aren't any guys that you can look at and know a guy is a MLB'er. If the Sox miss out on those two, I am all for them saving money in the first to spread out on guys throughout the draft that slide, like they did with Michaleski last year. Of course another guy could have a great year and vault himself into the conversation, but at this point, I dont see that can't miss guy. If those two are gone, I'm taking Trea Turner. Not a doubt in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 09:09 PM) If those two are gone, I'm taking Trea Turner. Not a doubt in my mind. +1, especially given the White Sox lack of trust in high school pitching (at least, according to Hawk and Stone) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 03:10 PM) +1, especially given the White Sox lack of trust in high school pitching (at least, according to Hawk and Stone) Exactly. Turner is off to a fast start this season batting 8/16 (all singles), 4 RBIs, 2 BBs, 0 K's, 5-5 in stolen bases and has a 1000 Fielding % through 4 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 03:11 PM) Exactly. Turner is off to a fast start this season batting 8/16 (all singles), 4 RBIs, 2 BBs, 0 K's, 5-5 in stolen bases and has a 1000 Fielding % through 4 games. I am not as sold on Turner as a lot are around here. He reminds me too much of Billy Hamilton. He is bunched up in a tier with Jackson, Kolek, Newomb, Beede and Aiken. I call all six and see who will sign for the best value and use the extra money on a guy in the second round who slid, perhaps a Gatewood, Touissant, or Ortiz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Who is all planning on watching the Jeff Hoffman start with me tonight? Looking forward to firmly planting myself on the couch with drink in hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (Dunt @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 04:00 PM) Who is all planning on watching the Jeff Hoffman start with me tonight? Looking forward to firmly planting myself on the couch with drink in hand He's already pitching. Archive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 04:03 PM) He's already pitching. Archive? Just went to look up the time and saw this. That's a boner. I was planning my evening around that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Hoffman goes 6.2 IP, 5 hits, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Sean Newcomb went 5-0, 3 hits, 3 walks, 9 K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 04:09 PM) Hoffman goes 6.2 IP, 5 hits, 3 ER, 3 BB, 6 K Not the best. Faced a good Virginia team though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Brandon Finnegan of TCU with another dominating start: 7IP, 6 hits, 0 ER, 0BB/9K Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 10:57 AM) It really is tough to say at this point, there is some depth, probably 10 or so guys that could end up in a major league rotation at some point. Just off the top of your head, how does the Sox system compare to the rest of MLB when it comes to SP prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 UNLV's Erick Fedde took the loss against the Vols tonight. 6 IP, 3 ER, 7 K. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 09:01 AM) The elite upside pitcher will be in the system in June. That number three pick in the draft is the future #2 to Chris Sale. Future #3 after Sale and Danish is what you meant to say. Tyler will be considered elite in...oh, about 90 days from now. Edited February 22, 2014 by Stan Bahnsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 (edited) Beede with 6 IP 1ER 1H 1BB and 11K against UIC. 85 pitches Edited February 22, 2014 by daa84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 QUOTE (fathom @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 04:44 PM) Brandon Finnegan of TCU with another dominating start: 7IP, 6 hits, 0 ER, 0BB/9K Finnegan is real interesting. Plus fastball (93-95, 70 pitch according to MLB Pipeline), slider (60 pitch according to MLB) and developing change. Granted the competition is not the greatest so far and its real early, but you gotta love the Ks and low BB totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 If your cable provider supports it, one can watch NC State/Appalachian State this afternoon on ESPN3.com. Get a look at Trea Turner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I follow C-USA baseball, and HOffman didn't look like a top 5 to me. I know his peripherals are good and he had a great post-college season summer, but I hope to see him put it together this spring (except when he plays the Green Wave). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Welp, the one at-bat of Turner's that I watched, he looked pretty bad but then ended up flying out to the wall. He made a great play in the field though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 I've seen Turner a few times now going back to late last year and other than his elite speed his other tools look only ordinary at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 (edited) Looking at the system as a whole I think that the biggest need is another dominant pitcher to pair with Chris Sale and I am hoping that guy is Tyler Kolek (Hoffman would be good too), I know he is a HS pitcher but with stuff that good he might be able to rise through the system quickly (2-3yrs), plus he has a tremendous ceiling and he fits the power pitcher profile that I love. I would still not be mad if they drafted a position player at #3 because the name of the game is drafting the best player available and if the guys in charge feel like the BPA is a position player so be it. *****A HS player that everyone should be following is Daz Cameron. I am hoping that he could be the silver lining of this season for the Sox (Im predicting 70-92 for the season)***** Edited February 23, 2014 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 - QUOTE (Marty34 @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 06:06 PM) Just off the top of your head, how does the Sox system compare to the rest of MLB when it comes to SP prospects. I would say they are in the 8-12 range. They have a lot of big league pitchers, but nothing to speak of as far as elite pitching prospects go. I don't think this draft does much to address that either, because if the Sox land Hoffman or Rodon, they will not be on the farm for very long. I could see either on the Sale plan and finish the season in the bullpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 08:21 PM) I wouldn't be so quick to look at Hoffman and Turner as if they will be the #2 and #3 options come June. I do think Hoffman will be a top 5 pick but I am not so sure about Turner. Kolek is pretty close to a surefire top 5 pick to me and I can see him hopping Turner at some point in the mock draft rankings. Kolek is a typical Marlins pick, they love upside high school players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 24, 2014 -> 09:00 AM) Kolek is a typical Marlins pick, they love upside high school players. That body type scares me. 6'5'', 250 at 18 years old? I suppose it's the same concerns for a Chris Sale type of build, but at least he was a proven college pitcher. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Feb 21, 2014 -> 03:06 PM) Last 5 #3 picks: 2013 - Jonathan Gray 2012 - Mike Zunino 2011 - Trevor Bauer 2010 - Manny Machado 2009 - Donovan Tate So.... Two appear to be busts, one is elite, and the last two are too early to tell though Zunino is moving toward the bust column, but still has a lot of time to recover. After Rodon and Hoffman, there aren't any guys that you can look at and know a guy is a MLB'er. If the Sox miss out on those two, I am all for them saving money in the first to spread out on guys throughout the draft that slide, like they did with Michaleski last year. Of course another guy could have a great year and vault himself into the conversation, but at this point, I dont see that can't miss guy. I don't know how you can say there are 2 busts from this group with Zunino on his way. Bauer was the 14th or 17th ranked prospect LAST YEAR, so to say he's a bust is incredibly premature to say the least. Zunino was drafted a year and a half ago and he's already in the majors. Saying he's even on his way to being a bust is absurd too. The only guy you can say for sure has busted is Tate, and that's been injuries, plus I recall some people suggesting that was a reach at 3 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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