royoung Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 01:14 PM) I think that is a horrible mindset, and if you're a GM with that mindset you're never going to set your team up for long term success. I would agree with you, but it just so happens that this class is extremely top heavy on pitching. I expect the first five players to be selected to be pitchers. It is a perfect blend of need and talent available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 01:15 PM) Everyone needs pitching. They aren't good at developing hitters. What better time to start developing you own position players than now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) What better time to start developing you own position players than now? I think we are starting to see improvement from the position players in the minors. To have Semien ready to play every day, and then to see some of the other kids jockeying to get up here tells me that things are getting better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) What better time to start developing you own position players than now? I understand your point. I agree too. I wouldn't take a HS hitter at #3 with the pitching available in this draft though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I think they are getting better at developing hitters, but they aren't even close to being good at it yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 5, 2014 -> 04:14 PM) I see no reason to take Hoffman at 3 and if it is with Rodon on the board, it is unconscionable I feel the exact opposite. Hoffman or Kolek is who I'd take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 01:34 PM) What better time to start developing you own position players than now? The issue isn't that you shouldn't take a position player, its that there isn't a position player in the draft that warrants being selected in the top 3 picks. You always pick the best player that you can sign. Trying to fill major league holes with the draft is a path to disappointment. Once Beck or Danish are ready, RH can move Danks or Johnson to fill offensive holes on the ML roster. People get stuck on Jackson because of his position, but he will not be a C in the majors, and probably never in the minors either. There are several position player prospects that are going to be appealing to the Sox in round 2, but again, I think they will take a guy that slips from the first round with that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 03:13 PM) I feel the exact opposite. Hoffman or Kolek is who I'd take. I am feeling more and more like the Astros take the local kid Kolek at #1. The Marlins are kind of a wildcard cause I think they could any of Rodon, Aiken, or Hoffman. It will be really interesting to see where the Sox go if Kolek and Hoffman are off the board at 1 and 2. They seem to be out on Rodon, Beede seems to be a #2/3 at his ceiling, and Aiken is a high school pitcher, so drafting him may make Hawks head explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 12:17 PM) Nice numbers for our 2nd round pick, Casey Gillaspie. http://www.goshockers.com/fls/7500/stats/b...?DB_OEM_ID=7500 Looks like he's the bigger, stronger kid brother, and a switch hitter to boot. We'll need some of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) Looks like he's the bigger, stronger kid brother, and a switch hitter to boot. We'll need some of that. I would gladly take him as our second round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (raBBit @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 12:31 PM) Not a big fan of Beede and everyday I think it's more and more likely we end up with him. Hopefully Hoffman makes it to #3 and the FO prefers him to Beede which I think they do. I'm glad Hoffman is righting the ship performance-wise, and given the org's long term interest, I think he'll be the guy, if he's available. And as a college guy, he should be ready for 2016 when we win the WS again. I guess we should root for the HS guys to go 1-2, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (flavum @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 07:17 PM) Nice numbers for our 2nd round pick, Casey Gillaspie. http://www.goshockers.com/fls/7500/stats/b...?DB_OEM_ID=7500 Love the stats, excellent walk and contact rates. BA says his bat speed very good. Frankie Piliere says plus power from both sides of the plate. Has to be a good hitter at 1B though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 I would take pitching. But if they think Jackson is a sure thing then I'm good with that also. But load up on pitching and you can always trade for developing hitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) Looks like he's the bigger, stronger kid brother, and a switch hitter to boot. We'll need some of that. He's Conor's brother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 03:53 PM) Looks like he's the bigger, stronger kid brother, and a switch hitter to boot. We'll need some of that. First baseman, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILMOU Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Bigsoxhurt35 @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 04:09 PM) He's Conor's brother? Yes. And Conor was also a player at Wichita State, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 (edited) I am hoping that the Sox are able to lock up Reetz and Gatewood after the first round. Here is an update on Tyler Kolek Tyler Kolek, RHP, Shepherd HS (TX) Not sure what else there is to say about Kolek at this point. He can’t rise much higher, and this might be the last time he makes the list because of that. It is, however, fun to write about how dominant he is and how abusive he is to his fellow peers. In his last start, he finished with 14 K/0 BB over five innings, allowing a hit. His last pitch registered 98 mph on the radar gun of Kendall Rogers over at Perfect Game. For the season, he now has 62 K/1 BB over 27.1 shutout innings, allowing three hits. The 6’-5”, 240 pound right-hander has entered the talks for 1.1 even though a prep right-hander has never gone first overall, showing just how special a talent he is. Committed to TCU — or the Astros. Read more at http://throughthefencebaseball.com/2014-ml...2ETAt7rjbsTs.99 Edited April 7, 2014 by Joshua Strong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 03:59 PM) I'm glad Hoffman is righting the ship performance-wise, and given the org's long term interest, I think he'll be the guy, if he's available. And as a college guy, he should be ready for 2016 when we win the WS again. I guess we should root for the HS guys to go 1-2, huh? I'm rooting for Rodon to go #1 or #2 because I don't know what to think of him anymore. I'd love to see the Sox have to decide between Hoffman or Aiken/Kolek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 7, 2014 Author Share Posted April 7, 2014 Is there any chance Jackson could be persuaded to go back to catching or he's 100% OF/DH/1B material right now? Has anyone actually seen him play? How athletic is he, in terms of playing the outfield? Comps? Are we talking Brandon Inge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 06:28 PM) Is there any chance Jackson could be persuaded to go back to catching or he's 100% OF/DH/1B material right now? Has anyone actually seen him play? How athletic is he, in terms of playing the outfield? Comps? Are we talking Brandon Inge? The problem isn't his willingness to catch, it's that you don't hold back a bat like that by making him catch. Comp is closer to Wil Myers than Inge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Apr 7, 2014 -> 07:49 PM) The problem isn't his willingness to catch, it's that you don't hold back a bat like that by making him catch. Comp is closer to Wil Myers than Inge. Bryce Harper is another comp that is being thrown around a lot for Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted April 8, 2014 Author Share Posted April 8, 2014 There's a wide spectrum of difference in terms of athleticism/explosiveness between a Harper and a Myers type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie Ball Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Joshua Strong @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 05:05 AM) Bryce Harper is another comp that is being thrown around a lot for Jackson. Please link to anywhere where someone of note has made this comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (Ozzie Ball @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 12:15 AM) Please link to anywhere where someone of note has made this comparison. http://macksmets.blogspot.com/2014/03/a-qu...rancho.html?m=1 I'm too lazy to find more, but they compare their bat speed to one another and their catcher/outfield profile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 8, 2014 Share Posted April 8, 2014 QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 8, 2014 -> 12:07 AM) There's a wide spectrum of difference in terms of athleticism/explosiveness between a Harper and a Myers type. Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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