Buehrle>Wood Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (Springfield SoxFan @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 09:42 PM) It will also be fascinating to watch the Cubs and Twins at 4 and 5. Because of the city and our division, we will get to see their picks a lot but let's hope we leave them in the dust. Remember the Cubs drafting Ty Griffin and Mike Harkey (I think) right ahead of the Sox. Can't wait for Thursday, great conversation everyone. Takes the mind off of the Blackhawks as well. Cubs don't want anything to do with Kolek, apparently. Another, albeit far down, reason to take Aiken/Rodon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 3, 2014 -> 09:45 PM) Cubs don't want anything to do with Kolek, apparently. Another, albeit far down, reason to take Aiken/Rodon. Interesting about Kolek and the Cubs. Kolek should be praying all day and night that he is not drafted by the Cubs, he would be called Kerry Wood II and would be cursed for the rest of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 For some reason, I keep on focusing on Chris Oliver or Jake Stinnett for the 2nd round pick for the Sox. If they take Rodon and have to go significantly over slot, Stinnett could be a good pick due to being a senior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Give me Gillaspie. I know it's probably a pipe dream at this point but realky, who wants to draft a 1bman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I want Gillaspie or Reetz with our 2nd pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 03:13 AM) I want Gillaspie or Reetz with our 2nd pick. Gillaspie will likely be off the board. Reetz might be around for the Sox in the 3rd round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Tomorrow night can not come fast enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 At this point my draft board is: 1 Aiken 2 Kolek 3 Nola Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:39 AM) At this point my draft board is: 1 Aiken 2 Kolek 3 Nola No Rodon even if he's available? Because of signability issues, delivery issues, both, neither? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:06 AM) No Rodon even if he's available? Because of signability issues, delivery issues, both, neither? If they took Nola over Rodon, I would have no choice but to actually flip a table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 No Rodon even if he's available? Because of signability issues, delivery issues, both, neither? Some of both. I want no part of Rodon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 08:20 AM) Some of both. I want no part of Rodon. Gotcha. It's tough to keep straight who doesn't want which players for what reason. Hahahaha. Rodon scares me more from a cost standpoint than a delivery standpoint, but then again, I don't know much about the mechanics of pitching at all. Not trying to second guess people's reasoning, but where were all the concerns about his delivery last year and even into the beginning of this season? I kept reading how he was supposed to be this slam dunk, can't miss prospect and now (seemingly all of the sudden) there are a lot of concerns with his delivery and mechanics. Just wondering what (if anything) changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 If they took Nola over Rodon, I would have no choice but to actually flip a table. If they took Rodon, and then failed to sign him for slot, I would have no choice but to flip over a table and four chairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 Bucket or Rock, you guys lurking out there?? If Rodon is there at 3 do you believe we take him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) After reading everything, I'm kind of warming up to Nola. He may not have quite the upside of the other 3, but he still has a high end upside and appears to be not only the most likely to reach it, but the most likely to reach it first. Also, if drafting Nola allows us to go overslot with our 2nd and/or 3rd pick then that's worthy of consideration. We aren't overloaded with prospects. If we can get better prospects with our 2/3 picks because we drafted Nola at 1, then with our situation that might be worth it. That being said, and I'm not a big baseball draft guy, but from what I've seen and heard I'd still prefer Rodon. But Nola might be my #2. HS pitchers this early are very risky, Edited June 4, 2014 by ChiSox_Sonix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:25 AM) If they took Rodon, and then failed to sign him for slot, I would have no choice but to flip over a table and four chairs. Lol me too. But I think they'd sign him. He's seen his stock plummet over the course of a year, he won't risk it to be put in a position with even less leverage next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:29 AM) After reading everything, I'm kind of warming up to Nola. He may not have quite the upside of the other 3, but he still has a high end upside and appears to be not only the most likely to reach it, but the most likely to reach it first. Also, if drafting Nola allows us to go overslot with our 2nd and/or 3rd pick then that's worthy of consideration. We aren't overloaded with prospects. If we can get better prospects with our 2/3 picks because we drafted Nola at 1, then with our situation that might be worth it. That being said, and I'm not a big baseball draft guy, but from what I've seen and heard I'd still prefer Rodon. But Nola might be my #2. HS pitchers this early are very risky, Keith Law said last night that Nola could be in the majors this year and in a rotation next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (oldsox @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 07:39 AM) Keith Law said last night that Nola could be in the majors this year and in a rotation next year. I don't know for sure, but I feel like that may be a bit overstated. Sale was on about the fastest fast track I can remember and it took him a partial bullpen stint and then a full year in the pen before he hit the rotation. Not saying it can't happen, but I would be surprised if they moved that quickly with anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 http://dcprosportsreport.com/MLBMocks.htm 30 Relevant Mock drafts there: 18 have Aiken going first. 18 have Rodon. 0 for anyone else. 11 have Rodon going second. 7 have Aiken. 8 have Jackson. 4 have Kolek. As for us, 18 have Kolek. 5 have Aiken. 5 have Rodon. 2 have Jackson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 My gut: 1. Rodon 2. Kolek 3. Nola 4. Aiken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 As I've said previously I really like Nola. Safe is tossed around a lot with negative connotation around here, but the safe draft prospect at 3 is much different than taking the safe player at 15 to 20. Nola still has upside. I'm still unsure who I'd want between an underslot Nola and a slot or higher Rodon. Though I wouldn't be disappointed with either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 08:47 AM) My gut: 1. Rodon 2. Kolek 3. Nola 4. Aiken Our draft board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 QUOTE (oneofthemikes @ Jun 4, 2014 -> 09:45 AM) I don't know for sure, but I feel like that may be a bit overstated. Sale was on about the fastest fast track I can remember and it took him a partial bullpen stint and then a full year in the pen before he hit the rotation. Not saying it can't happen, but I would be surprised if they moved that quickly with anybody. That full year in the bullpen was an utter mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 (edited) I'd LOVE Nola at say, pick 5 or 6. I can honestly even see an argument for taking him over Kolek or Aiken purely because you fear the uncertainty of HS pitchers. But Nola over Rodon? They're both 1-2 years from having a shot to stick in the majors and Rodon has a way higher ceiling. I bet literally every team would take Rodon over Nola. EDIT: Now that I've said that, I fully realized I've sealed Nola's fate as this year's 1-1 at about $5m underslot. Edited June 4, 2014 by Eminor3rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted June 4, 2014 Share Posted June 4, 2014 I've changed my tune on Kolek. Take the upside and hope. If he needs TJS in a year, well, join the club. Take the kid, and draft a college pitcher at 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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