GoGoSox2k2 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Passan reporting deal is not close to done. Talks for now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:49 AM) Nine pieces of dung are still nine pieces of dung no matter which order you put them in. QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 04:21 PM) Good point. So that would mean Crain to Team X Player Q from Team X to the Rays Prospects from Rays to Sox What do the Rays need? Green Sox copies my old haiku style of posting. Or are we the same guy? Hmmmm (kidding) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:39 AM) Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 46s Sources: Deal for Jesse Crain to Rays not close to done. Talks for now. Good news for White Sox is teams aren't scared off by his shoulder. Good news? Also, looks like talks of mystery team were overstated or in preliminary stages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Why is it that not one media member can produce an accurate story about us this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:42 AM) Why is it that not one media member can produce an accurate story about us this year? As CyAcosta would say, mis, dis, and non-information. The White Sox are among the best at it and have been for years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Close or not just getting it out there that someone wants to trade for Crain gets people interested again. How could you not be? Yes he's injured but he's been absolutely lights out. Could be Hahn using the media to get Boston to get moving on a Peavy, Crain deal. We really can't believe anything until its actually done. Teams use writers to spin for them as much as a certain administration uses CNN. I do think though today is the day for things to go down, however I feel it will be later tonight probably after the game as it gets closer to Jakes start. Today's the day boys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:42 AM) Why is it that not one media member can produce an accurate story about us this year? That's a good thing, when it comes to trade rumors anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:39 AM) Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 46s Sources: Deal for Jesse Crain to Rays not close to done. Talks for now. Good news for White Sox is teams aren't scared off by his shoulder. Good news? Yes good news, there is plenty of interest in a guy who is currently on a DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Why is it that not one media member can produce an accurate story about us this year? Here you go--a guaranteed 100% accurate story: Sometime before 3pm Wednesday, Jesse Crain either will or will not be traded in a deal involving at least one other team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:44 AM) Here you go--a guaranteed 100% accurate story: Sometime before 3pm Wednesday, Jesse Crain either will or will not be traded in a deal involving at least one other team. Your wit and humor astound me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:42 PM) Why is it that not one media member can produce an accurate story about us this year? Because Joe Cowley is no longer a White Sox beat writer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwill Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Does anyone think we should hang onto Crain? I am actually not opposed to hanging onto him and trying to get an extension done. He has been one of the only guys to actually live up to his contract in a sox uniform. My thought is this, you should not trade him for a marginal prospect. I agree to trading him only if you actually get something that has value and not just a lottery pick. If you cant, see if you can get a deal done with him going forward. Look, if you are not going to do a complete rebuild with Sale then you are trying to compete next year or 2015. Reed,Jones and Crain are three tremendous assets to do that. The rotation figures to be pretty solid. It's our position players who are just awful. I am not saying don't trade him. I am saying just make sure you actually get value instead of trading him for the heck of it. The White Sox do that far to often. (Simon Castro)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:49 AM) Does anyone think we should hang onto Crain? I am actually not opposed to hanging onto him and trying to get an extension done. He has been one of the only guys to actually live up to his contract in a sox uniform. My thought is this, you should not trade him for a marginal prospect. I agree to trading him only if you actually get something that has value and not just a lottery pick. If you cant, see if you can get a deal done with him going forward. Look, if you are not going to do a complete rebuild with Sale then you are trying to compete next year or 2015. Reed,Jones and Crain are three tremendous assets to do that. The rotation figures to be pretty solid. It's our position players who are just awful. I am not saying don't trade him. I am saying just make sure you actually get value instead of trading him for the heck of it. The White Sox do that far to often. (Simon Castro)... He is most likely going to be extremely expensive and almost certainly not as good the next couple of years. The Sox need to move him. When he's a free agent, they can always re-visit and see if his price tag makes any sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (kwill @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:49 AM) Does anyone think we should hang onto Crain? I am actually not opposed to hanging onto him and trying to get an extension done. He has been one of the only guys to actually live up to his contract in a sox uniform. My thought is this, you should not trade him for a marginal prospect. I agree to trading him only if you actually get something that has value and not just a lottery pick. If you cant, see if you can get a deal done with him going forward. Look, if you are not going to do a complete rebuild with Sale then you are trying to compete next year or 2015. Reed,Jones and Crain are three tremendous assets to do that. The rotation figures to be pretty solid. It's our position players who are just awful. I am not saying don't trade him. I am saying just make sure you actually get value instead of trading him for the heck of it. The White Sox do that far to often. (Simon Castro)... If you want Crain on the 2014 White Sox, you can sign him as a free agent in the offseason. Might as well get whatever you can now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Since I have been sleeping for awhile can someone give me an update with everything that has happened so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Chrissake, Levine. Only three guys to trust around this time of year: Ken Rosenthal, Jon Heyman, Bob Nightengale Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. Oh dear.. if some don't know Rock, docsox and bucket are the best in the business is regards to in the know on this site. EDIT: And spataro51, but he doesn't post much anymore. Edited July 29, 2013 by SoxAce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:49 AM) Because Joe Cowley is no longer a White Sox beat writer. true stories about how upset Oney Guillen is with Kenny Williams dont count Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. I think that's pretty much a given. I just want to know they were able to move him for anything considering he's been out for a month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. My expectation is a prospect whose ceiling is major league utility infielder, 4th outfielder, 5th starter, or long relief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGoSox2k2 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. great to hear from ya Rock! altho not what I was wanting/hoping to hear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:10 PM) Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. Anyone who actually thought the Sox were getting anything can't miss even if he wasn't on the DL hasn't been paying attention, but something is better than nothing. Edited July 29, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 10:10 AM) Prepare to be underwhelmed by the return for Crain. I don't know how that is possible at this point... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:12 PM) My expectation is a prospect whose ceiling is major league utility infielder, 4th outfielder, 5th starter, or long relief. I'm hoping for more like a high-ceiling but low-floor guy, someone who has about an 80% bust likelihood, but serious tools that could make an impact if he puts it together. As opposed to a guy 75% likely to see the majors but with minimal ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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