lasttriptotulsa Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) The good thing is that the Rangers actually want and could use Rios and didn't just do it with the intentions of blocking. Edited August 8, 2013 by lasttriptotulsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 That's fantastic that the Rangers won the claim. Definitely the best case scenario, hopefully Hahn can take advantage of the Ranger's need for a bat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I keep forgetting that Houston is in the AL. Me too, lol. I read that and was like "YEAH, YOU MEAN HOUSTON AND THE ENTIRE REST OF THE AMERIC- oh, wait..." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:48 PM) There are indications in that he wasn't moved at the deadline. Oops, nvm, misinterpreted what you meant. The fact that he was claimed tells me one thing...the Sox did in fact get some sort of offers for Rios at the deadline which involved prospects and either no cash going back or minimal cash. Or at least I'd suspect as much since Texas put this claim in. I do suppose that Texas previously balked at the notion of paying his entire salary and didn't become willing until Cruz went out. My guess is Texas is more willing to agree to the White Sox demands at this point...but I would think it is unlikely they just let Rios walk (at least based upon this fact pattern where i assume the Sox previously had gotten offers of some sort w/no or limited money for Rios...my guess is they want a good prospect or two for Rios and at that point would probably be willing to send 2-4 million back to the other team). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) I keep forgetting that Houston is in the AL. I have a feeling it's going to take me a couple years to get used to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 The fact that he was claimed tells me one thing...the Sox did in fact get some sort of offers for Rios at the deadline which involved prospects and either no cash going back or minimal cash. Or at least I'd suspect as much since Texas put this claim in. I do suppose that Texas previously balked at the notion of paying his entire salary and didn't become willing until Cruz went out. My guess is Texas is more willing to agree to the White Sox demands at this point...but I would think it is unlikely they just let Rios walk (at least based upon this fact pattern where i assume the Sox previously had gotten offers of some sort w/no or limited money for Rios...my guess is they want a good prospect or two for Rios and at that point would probably be willing to send 2-4 million back to the other team). With Boston eating Peavy's entire contract, there is absolutely no reason the Sox shouldn't eat up to half of Rios' in order to get better talent in return. There is nothing the Sox are going to spend that extra $5-7M on in 2014 anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 08:54 PM) The fact that he was claimed tells me one thing...the Sox did in fact get some sort of offers for Rios at the deadline which involved prospects and either no cash going back or minimal cash. Or at least I'd suspect as much since Texas put this claim in. I do suppose that Texas previously balked at the notion of paying his entire salary and didn't become willing until Cruz went out. My guess is Texas is more willing to agree to the White Sox demands at this point...but I would think it is unlikely they just let Rios walk (at least based upon this fact pattern where i assume the Sox previously had gotten offers of some sort w/no or limited money for Rios...my guess is they want a good prospect or two for Rios and at that point would probably be willing to send 2-4 million back to the other team). I don't see why the Sox should send any money. Even though I feel he is grossly overpaid, a lot of people on here are indicating his salary isn't totally out of line for huge-market teams. If we can't get a "great" prospect for Rios, then take 2 lower level young, average players with a bit of an upside and call it a trade. As long as Texas pays the whole thing. Edited August 8, 2013 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Wow! This is great news. I really hope they can work out a fair deal. If this works out, we have saved another 15 million between this year and next year. Fantastic! This would also create an opening for Garcia, which is very much necessary at this point in the season. I'm hoping for some lower level guys with high ceilings (A or AA). The White Sox are in a serious need for offense for not only in the bigs, but also in the farm system. Get this done, Mr. Hahn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 Cruz is unlikely to return to the Rangers next year, so Rios would be a decent long-term replacement. They will part with either Odor, Sardinas, or Jackson I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 So, exclude the 40 man roster. Who do the Rangers have that would really interest people as a Rios Return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 12:59 PM) I don't see why the Sox should send any money. Even though I feel he is grossly overpaid, a lot of people on here are indicating his salary isn't totally out of line for huge-market teams. If we can't get a "great" prospect for Rios, then take 2 lower level young, average players with a bit of an upside and call it a trade. As long as Texas pays the whole thing. I would be on board with that return to be frank. I wouldn't eat half of his contract cause at that point, I'd likely rather have Rios then whatever the club is getting in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) So, exclude the 40 man roster. Who do the Rangers have that would really interest people as a Rios Return? I'd be SO content with Odor. I would love Sardinas too, who may be available only because he is super blocked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 02:51 PM) Also, if Rios does move, can he claim to be "Mr. August"? I've never seen a guy of his caliber being claimed off waivers twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:02 PM) So, exclude the 40 man roster. Who do the Rangers have that would really interest people as a Rios Return? Alfaro would be my top priority, but after that I think it would go Odor then Sardinas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 07:59 PM) I don't see why the Sox should send any money. Even though I feel he is grossly overpaid, a lot of people on here are indicating his salary isn't totally out of line for huge-market teams. If we can't get a "great" prospect for Rios, then take 2 lower level young, average players with a bit of an upside and call it a trade. As long as Texas pays the whole thing. All baseball players are overpaid. Salary is not the issue. The return in prospects is and it needs to be good for the Sox. If Texas doesn't want to offer quality then there is no need to do a trade. We have the off season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) Alfaro would be my top priority, but after that I think it would go Odor then Sardinas. Can someone provide stat info on each one of those players, please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 02:59 PM) I don't see why the Sox should send any money. Even though I feel he is grossly overpaid, a lot of people on here are indicating his salary isn't totally out of line for huge-market teams. If we can't get a "great" prospect for Rios, then take 2 lower level young, average players with a bit of an upside and call it a trade. As long as Texas pays the whole thing. With what Rios has produced for the White Sox so far, he's been paid just about the right amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:11 PM) Can someone provide stat info on each one of those players, please? http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=2B http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=SS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:08 PM) I've never seen a guy of his caliber being claimed off waivers twice. Pffft you say this the day the Sox lose Casper Wells to waivers after a successful claim earlier this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Dunt @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:10 PM) Alfaro would be my top priority, but after that I think it would go Odor then Sardinas. Agreed, I think Alfaro would be a great get. But that is their top prospect and Sardinas is their 2nd. Odor could be reasonable, I hope. If not I would go with Mazara or Luke Jackson if we want SP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:13 PM) http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=2B http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playe...amp;position=SS Much appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:13 PM) With what Rios has produced for the White Sox so far, he's been paid just about the right amount of money. In the past, free agency has tended to pay out about $5m per WAR, and as a 3-4 WAR player, he's actually a touch underpaid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 04:14 PM) Agreed, I think Alfaro would be a great get. But that is their top prospect and Sardinas is their 2nd. Odor could be reasonable, I hope. If not I would go with Mazara or Luke Jackson if we want SP I've still got to figure the White Sox would target position players here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreatScott82 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Agreed, I think Alfaro would be a great get. But that is their top prospect and Sardinas is their 2nd. Odor could be reasonable, I hope. If not I would go with Mazara or Luke Jackson if we want SP After looking at their numbers, If i'm Texas, I am likely not dealing Sardinas AND taking in Rios's remaining contract. However, if I'm Texas, I would eat his entire salary AND deal Odor to make sure this deal gets done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 8, 2013 Share Posted August 8, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 8, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) I've still got to figure the White Sox would target position players here. I hope so too, but you never know at this point. I would like one of their young international guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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