Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 01:48 PM) Buster Olney @Buster_ESPN 5m Joe Nathan is being shopped by the Rangers for an established hitter, other teams say. More than just internal talks. That's not good for the Rios talks. Damn you Rangers Maybe a 3 team deal where Rios goes to Rangers, Nathan goes to another contender, and Sox get prospects. It would be odd for a contender to make a deal with another contender involved though (and who else would want to be involved). Only logical thing would be the 3rd team being in the NL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 02:30 PM) Bowden suggested it. Saw his tweet lol. But who knows. Dodgers are looking for help in the pen. They'd easily do that deal, imo. No idea why Rangers would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 03:52 PM) They also have Joakim Soria Has he even pitched in the majors yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulstar Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 With Texas' offense really struggling, a Cruz suspension looming, Berkman likely not producing anymore this season, falling more and more behind Oakland, and being shut out for the 3rd time today in four games (That's almost White Sox offense bad), a Dunn, Rios, and $$$ to Texas trade is starting to make too much sense. It would be two big upgrades to what they currently have at DH/LF and wouldn't cost them as much as a trade for someone like Pence would (how much more are they really willing to deplete their system after the Garza trade). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Paulstar @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 05:20 PM) With Texas' offense really struggling, a Cruz suspension looming, Berkman likely not producing anymore this season, falling more and more behind Oakland, and being shut out for the 3rd time today in four games (That's almost White Sox offense bad), a Dunn, Rios, and $$$ to Texas trade is starting to make too much sense. It would be two big upgrades to what they currently have at DH/LF and wouldn't cost them as much as a trade for someone like Pence would (how much more are they really willing to deplete their system after the Garza trade). I sure hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Pirates looking at Schierholtz per Morosi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 11:53 PM) Pirates looking at Schierholtz per Morosi. Cubs better not be getting Hanson for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 05:56 PM) Cubs better not be getting Hanson for him That would be frustrating. Doubt that happens though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Hanson was just pulled in 4th inning Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 05:56 PM) Cubs better not be getting Hanson for him That's my guess actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Christ, Schierholtz is not a good baseball player. Paying a lot for a league average bat, at best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:01 PM) That's my guess actually. I'll probably cry lol. If that happened, I would give up on this trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (DirtySox @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 11:01 PM) That's my guess actually. That would be just an incredible trade by the Cubs. Getting a top 50 prospect for a platoon outfielder. Edited July 28, 2013 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:06 PM) That would be just an incredible trade by the Cubs. Getting a top 50 prospect for a platoon outfielder. No way this happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Probably should have posted this here, not the Peavy thread. Alen Hanson twitter watch... https://twitter.com/search?q=Alen%20Hanson&src=typd Someone just tweeted he's not even in the dugout right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 If it is for Schierholtz, I bet Pirates also get Gregg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:02 PM) Christ, Schierholtz is not a good baseball player. Paying a lot for a league average bat, at best He has an .876 ops. More homers, better batting average and better on base percentage than Rios and makes $10 million a year less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:10 PM) He has an .876 ops. More homers, better batting average and better on base percentage than Rios and makes $10 million a year less. A long, long track record is relevant here The attractiveness of a guy like Schierholtz in the trade market is that you WOULDN'T have to trade a guy like Hanson to get him Edited July 28, 2013 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Also, let's not freak out. Hanson isn't exactly Jesus Christ reincarnate. He's 20 years old and has seen his numbers dip a bit from last season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:10 PM) A long, long track record is relevant here The attractiveness of a guy like Schierholtz in the trade market is that you WOULDN'T have to trade a guy like Hanson to get him No its not, its for 2 months, and it isn't like Rios has a stellar track record. I don't know if that is going to be the deal, but it makes a lot more sense than trading him for Rios. Edited July 28, 2013 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 Kinda funny cause it seems like none if the media anywhere has picked up on Hanson getting pulled yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:12 PM) Kinda funny cause it seems like none if the media anywhere has picked up on Hanson getting pulled yet. Probably because minor leaguers get pulled from games all the time and it normally doesn't mean anything And this one probably doesn't mean anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:12 AM) No its not, its for 2 months, and it isn't like Rios has a stellar track record. He is a strict platoon player. When is the last time a platoon player was traded for a top 50 guy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:12 PM) No its not, its for 2 months, and it isn't like Rios has a stellar track record. I dom't kmow if that is goimg to be the deal, but it makes a lot more sense than trading him for Rios. Schierholtz career WAR - 6.5 career high prior to this season - 1.3 this season - 2.1 Rios career WAR - 25.4 career high - 5.5 this season - 2.0 seasons over 2.1 - 6 (seventh in progress) They're not even in the same ballpark Edited July 28, 2013 by Jake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:10 PM) A long, long track record is relevant here The attractiveness of a guy like Schierholtz in the trade market is that you WOULDN'T have to trade a guy like Hanson to get him Not to mention trading within the division. If you're the Cubs you don't give a crap who you're trading to but if you're the Pirates in that situation, giving up a top prospect to a division rival when there are similar/better players out there would be odd. QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:13 PM) Probably because minor leaguers get pulled from games all the time and it normally doesn't mean anything And this one probably doesn't mean anything I agree but there seemed to be media all over it last time he was pulled, granted Rios was pulled at the same time so there was quite a lot going on. Edited July 28, 2013 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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