Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:29 PM) Any objective analysis of Nate Schierholtz would scream "fluke year" and "not good at baseball" Anyhow, this rumor is a dud. Hanson just took a long poop Of course, but that doesn't matter. Give me the guy that is going well this year. There were far better overall releivers than Cliff Politte and Neal Cotts in 2005, but if the Sox traded them for 2 other guys, it would have weakened them. Maybe the Pirates told this guy to go burn a mule for gamesmanship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 28, 2013 Share Posted July 28, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:30 PM) Well, Gerrit Cole picked and ate a booger on TV today I did see that. My favorite part is how he looked around to see if any cameras were on him before he ate it. Oops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 (edited) I know that Texas is said to be dangling Nathan in order to attain their bat, however does any one else think we could work a 3-team trade out where Texas gets Rios, a 3rd team gets Nathan (Detroit, Boston, Atlanta, Pitt, Cards), and we get a package of prospects. That could really make things interesting if for instance we build a package for STL (Peavy, Nathan, Lexi) or Boston (Peavy, Nathan) Pitt (Alexi, Nathan, De Aza), ETc. Probably no chance of happening but it could def work and fill needs for all teams involved. I still just get the feeling Rios ends up in Arlington, ever since AJ came out a month or so and stated they wanted Rios. Edited July 29, 2013 by Frank_Thomas35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:30 PM) Well, Gerrit Cole picked and ate a booger on TV today And failed to get you a point in fantasy baseball....I'm sure glad my fantasy baseball team is doing so well otherwise baseball would be so much more miserable right now....I put a lot of stock in the soxtalk leagues because I know I'm playing against people who know their baseball. #NoOneCares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 07:33 PM) He still thinks WW is Willy Wonka I think it's Woodrow Wilson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 01:25 AM) I know that Texas is said to be dangling Nathan in order to attain their bat, however does any one else think we could work a 3-team trade out where Texas gets Rios, a 3rd team gets Nathan (Detroit, Boston, Atlanta, Pitt, Cards), and we get a package of prospects. That could really make things interesting if for instance we build a package for STL (Peavy, Nathan, Lexi) or Boston (Peavy, Nathan) Pitt (Alexi, Nathan, De Aza), ETc. Probably no chance of happening but it could def work and fill needs for all teams involved. I still just get the feeling Rios ends up in Arlington, ever since AJ came out a month or so and stated they wanted Rios. The reason that they are dangling Nathan is because they don't want to meet the price for Rios, so a deal of that nature seems unlikely. 'The Rangers appear to be trying every other avenue to avoid meeting the Sox price, calling other teams to pry away OF's and now putting Nathan out there to try and bring back a hitter. Obviously the team that could use Nathan the most is the Tigers, but I dont believe that they have the bat to give up to help out the Rangers, so they will need to come back to Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (IowaSoxFan @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:30 AM) The reason that they are dangling Nathan is because they don't want to meet the price for Rios, so a deal of that nature seems unlikely. 'The Rangers appear to be trying every other avenue to avoid meeting the Sox price, calling other teams to pry away OF's and now putting Nathan out there to try and bring back a hitter. Obviously the team that could use Nathan the most is the Tigers, but I dont believe that they have the bat to give up to help out the Rangers, so they will need to come back to Rios. That's what I'm saying, reports are that they don't want to give up the prospects it would take to get Rios. So making a trade centered around Rios and Nathan and we bring in a 3rd team to turn Nathan around to for prospects. I agree I think Texas ends up with Rios I just don't see them giving up any decent prospects for him, this could be a work through. Det may not have that bat TX wants but they have prospects we are interested in and no doubt the would want Nathan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 FWIW, Tigers just got reliever Jose Veras from Astros for OF Danry Vasquez per Rosenthal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez's Ghost Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 28, 2013 -> 06:36 PM) I did see that. My favorite part is how he looked around to see if any cameras were on him before he ate it. Oops. The Tigers just got Veras from Houston, so forget about them in a Texas 3 way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 08:56 AM) That's what I'm saying, reports are that they don't want to give up the prospects it would take to get Rios. So making a trade centered around Rios and Nathan and we bring in a 3rd team to turn Nathan around to for prospects. I agree I think Texas ends up with Rios I just don't see them giving up any decent prospects for him, this could be a work through. Det may not have that bat TX wants but they have prospects we are interested in and no doubt the would want Nathan. I just think that the third team thing is an act of desperation and they are not going to be able to make it happen. I think making the move for Garza means they have to commit to this season and will have to pay what it takes to put the team in a position to make the playoffs. The third team thing could work, or they send Nathan to the Tigers for prospects and flip those prospects to the Sox, but with a limited amount of time left until the deadline it will be very difficult to work out all the details of such a deal while also trying to deal Peavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I just think that the third team thing is an act of desperation and they are not going to be able to make it happen. I think making the move for Garza means they have to commit to this season and will have to pay what it takes to put the team in a position to make the playoffs. The third team thing could work, or they send Nathan to the Tigers for prospects and flip those prospects to the Sox, but with a limited amount of time left until the deadline it will be very difficult to work out all the details of such a deal while also trying to deal Peavy. [/quote Good point man the Garza thing put it in perspective. They gave up some good spects for a rental they are definitely trying for that WS. I hope you're right and they are desperate enough they take Rios. He's the one guy I don't want to see anymore after Wednesday between the lack of hustle and just lacsidaisical focus I want to rid ourselves of bad examples of we are indeed going young. Show these guys how the game is expected to be played in the south side. TWTWTFG baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 09:06 AM) The Tigers just got Veras from Houston, so forget about them in a Texas 3 way. Hey! This is a family board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 09:15 AM) Hey! This is a family board! Lol boom, nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 LOL Rangers getting so desperate. Asked for Brian McCann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:51 AM) LOL Rangers getting so desperate. Asked for Brian McCann. Just saw that they must really not want Rios or Hahn is asking for the world for him and they aren't willing to budge. It's hard to know its all just smoke at this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:51 AM) LOL Rangers getting so desperate. Asked for Brian McCann. Aj ought to love that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:18 PM) Aj ought to love that. The odd guy out is probably Soto and I don't watch a lot of Rangers games, but I think I saw AJ DH'ing a lot batting 5th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Robert Murray @RobertMurrayMLB 16m The #WhiteSox are asking for two top prospects and a 'lesser' player for Alex Rios, per @jaysonst. Don't be surprised to not see him traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Cue overreaction in 3...2...1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royoung Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:46 PM) Robert Murray @RobertMurrayMLB 16m The #WhiteSox are asking for two top prospects and a 'lesser' player for Alex Rios, per @jaysonst. Don't be surprised to not see him traded. We gotta eat some money in his deal if that's what we are asking for. I don't see any way around it with Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (southside hitman @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 11:53 AM) We gotta eat some money in his deal if that's what we are asking for. I don't see any way around it with Rios. Presumably the Sox would be taking on the lesser player's salary, right? So that's eating money to some degree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthSideSox72 Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I see no issue with Hahn ASKING For that. When it comes down to it, I'd imagine he is now asking (or already has asked) for the best and final offers from all teams on Peavy, Rios, etc., and will then pick the best he can get. Or, if the return is just way too low, then he'll hold on that player. It isn't that complicated, but I really doubt it is a matter of saying "I want this" and then it ends there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 12:59 PM) I see no issue with Hahn ASKING For that. When it comes down to it, I'd imagine he is now asking (or already has asked) for the best and final offers from all teams on Peavy, Rios, etc., and will then pick the best he can get. Or, if the return is just way too low, then he'll hold on that player. It isn't that complicated, but I really doubt it is a matter of saying "I want this" and then it ends there. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 29, 2013 -> 10:59 AM) I see no issue with Hahn ASKING For that. When it comes down to it, I'd imagine he is now asking (or already has asked) for the best and final offers from all teams on Peavy, Rios, etc., and will then pick the best he can get. Or, if the return is just way too low, then he'll hold on that player. It isn't that complicated, but I really doubt it is a matter of saying "I want this" and then it ends there. Yeah, we have to remember Hahn is an attorney and a talented negotiator. I'm sure he's doing just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank_Thomas Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Rios' agent Paul Kinzer told Fred Mitchell of the Chicago Tribune nothing appears imminent with his client unless other teams are willing to improve their offers. Per MLbTR Looks like Ricky boy is holding strong we need another 6-6 game for Rios with 2 HRs, 2B, 2 SB, and 5 RBI. I really want to move him, I know we don't want to eat money but if that's what it takes to get the package of prospects you want I'd do it, but it's easy for me to say, not my money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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