cabiness42 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Sounds like they're trying to talk Cruz into appealing If I'm Cruz' agent, I advise him that's a terrible idea. He's not getting much of a free agent contract if he has to sit out the first 50 games next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:05 PM) If I'm Cruz' agent, I advise him that's a terrible idea. He's not getting much of a free agent contract if he has to sit out the first 50 games next year. That. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 25s A hour left until the deadline. Moving Rios would free up another $18 million. The White Sox have established they won't eat salary. https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Wellp. I think this is all we'll see then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
103 mph screwball Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) And yet they've already squandered 2 chances at a playoff birth by not making deadline moves and then falling apart in the 2nd half. MLB tends to not be kind to teams that just assume they'll be even more competitive next year. I was kind of hoping for a big trade with the Pirates. Sox send them Rios, Ramirez, and a lot of cash. Pirates send back several high prospects kick starting the rebuild. I would root for the Pirate the rest of the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:06 PM) Doug Padilla @ESPNChiSox 25s A hour left until the deadline. Moving Rios would free up another $18 million. The White Sox have established they won't eat salary. https://twitter.com/ESPNChiSox I thought the whole point of not including money in the Peavy deal was to allow flexibility in our Rios/Ramirez trade possibilities. This just pisses me off if it's actually true. What do they think is more expensive, eating a couple million now or preventing our ability to get better prospects and thus delaying our ability to compete even longer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Dye Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) I thought the whole point of not including money in the Peavy deal was to allow flexibility in our Rios/Ramirez trade possibilities. This just pisses me off if it's actually true. What do they think is more expensive, eating a couple million now or preventing our ability to get better prospects and thus delaying our ability to compete even longer. Well not including money in the Peavy deal allows for offseason spending too. Cant completely simplify what happened yesterday into some immediate-consequence narrative Edited July 31, 2013 by Jose Paniagua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 12:08 PM) I thought the whole point of not including money in the Peavy deal was to allow flexibility in our Rios/Ramirez trade possibilities. This just pisses me off if it's actually true. What do they think is more expensive, eating a couple million now or preventing our ability to get better prospects and thus delaying our ability to compete even longer. I'd bet he's just going off the fact that we didn't eat any money in the Peavy deal. I don't believe anything any chicago reporter says about our future direction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (bigruss22 @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) I thought the whole point of not including money in the Peavy deal was to allow flexibility in our Rios/Ramirez trade possibilities. This just pisses me off if it's actually true. What do they think is more expensive, eating a couple million now or preventing our ability to get better prospects and thus delaying our ability to compete even longer. If you don't eat money, you get the pitching prospects like you got for Peavy. If you do eat $5 million or so you get the equivalent of Simon Castro. I don't blame them for not eating money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I can sense it...people are going to start believing they know what all the offers were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 07:10 PM) If you don't eat money, you get the pitching prospects like you got for Peavy. If you do eat $5 million or so you get the equivalent of Simon Castro. I don't blame them for not eating money. If you don't eat the money, I'm not sure you'll find a deal at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 07:11 PM) If you don't eat the money, I'm not sure you'll find a deal at all. I can't imagine anyone trading for Rios and taking on the rest of his contract without the Sox adding money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 15s Angels had no interest in a Trumbo deal with Pittsburgh...NO INTEREST lol NO INTEREST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 If the White Sox truly refuse to send any money then they are sending a giant middle finger to the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) If you don't eat the money, I'm not sure you'll find a deal at all. You are probably right, but eating a lot of money isn't going to bring back a future all star. Teams are not dumb. It's harder than ever to pry away their best prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 12:13 PM) JIM BOWDEN @JimBowdenESPNxm 15s Angels had no interest in a Trumbo deal with Pittsburgh...NO INTEREST lol NO INTEREST With authority! Take THAT, Pittsburgh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Heyman said the Pirates offered organizational type prospects for Rios. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Knackattack @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 03:13 PM) If the White Sox truly refuse to send any money then they are sending a giant middle finger to the fans. It's much more likely IMO that the Sox were willing to eat some money but Pittsburgh wasn't willing to part with a top-flight guy to make eating that money worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 What we don't know is what exactly eating money gets us. If we eat money just to get a s***ty return, then no, I wouldn't eat any money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:11 PM) If you don't eat the money, I'm not sure you'll find a deal at all. Deal is DOA without it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 08:13 PM) You are probably right, but eating a lot of money isn't going to bring back a future all star. Teams are not dumb. It's harder than ever to pry away their best prospects. I agree. However, I feel like eating 5mill and getting some c level spects + 14mill in savings is better than Rios. But, hey, I wouldn't be heartbroken if he's here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 12:14 PM) Heyman said the Pirates offered organizational type prospects for Rios. What does that term mean, btw? Just filler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 On Rios...just get this bum out of town. If a team will take him in any form, just do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 08:15 PM) What does that term mean, btw? Just filler? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 31, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) What does that term mean, btw? Just filler? Yeah typically these are players that aren't expected be major leaguers, and if so don't have ceilings much higher than bench players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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