Quin Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 So, it seems like everyone can agree Peavy, Rios, and Crain are likely to be gone. Dunn, Danks, Thornton, Lindstrom, De Aza and Alexei are also trading chips that could be gone. So let's assume they all get traded (big fire sale!). Here are the in house guys I'd expect on the field next year, minus bench and most of the bullpen because that's a crapshoot. Rotation: Sale Santiago Quintana Johnson Axelrod C - Phegley 2B - Beckham 3B - Gillaspie LF - Viciedo Bullpen: Reed Jones Castro Webb So...a lot of holes to plug if everyone got traded. I'd look for a right handed starter to replace Axelrod in the rotation. Then lefty bats are needed, well any bats are needed, but my point stands. Interesting thing: Despite the Sox woes, it seems they have a lot players that can cash in on for good packages...which makes this year even sadder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 1. a #3 hitter 2. CF 3. 3B I think the Sox have enough pieces to fill these holes without dealing the three that matter most (Sale, Santiago, and Quintana.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knackattack Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) A) 2 young, high upside position players that can start playing immediately (preferably a CF and a SS). B) If Peavy, Rios, Alexei and a few bullpen guys go, at least 3-5 new additions to our top 10 prospect list on top of what I wrote above. (Preferably position players) Edited July 13, 2013 by Knackattack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I forgot who mentioned it, but if we can get LHP Drake Britton and 3B Michael Almanzar from the Red Sox for Matt Thornton, that's a very good start. Trade Peavy and Crain to the DBacks for Eaton, Owings, Lamb, and Anderson. Trade Lindstrom to the Braves for Tommy La Stella, and a lower tier prospect. Trade Rios to the Rangers for Jorge Alfaro, Nick Williams and a lower tier prospect. That's what I want. I don't think that would be far off. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 13, 2013 Author Share Posted July 13, 2013 I know Randall Delgado was mentioned in the Peavy thread. Is he still the prospect he was with ATL or should he not be someone the Sox look for as part of a deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 07:55 PM) I forgot who mentioned it, but if we can get LHP Drake Britton and 3B Michael Almanzar from the Red Sox for Matt Thornton, that's a very good start. Trade Peavy and Crain to the DBacks for Eaton, Owings, Lamb, and Anderson. Trade Lindstrom to the Braves for Tommy La Stella, and a lower tier prospect. Trade Rios to the Rangers for Jorge Alfaro, Nick Williams and a lower tier prospect. That's what I want. I don't think that would be far off. Thoughts? If were getting Eaton, I'd like to see the sox get Holmberg/another pitcher instead of Ownings if were getting rid of peavy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 There isn't much of a reason to trade Peavy. Think like going into 2005 and sign a bunch of midlevel position players and hope for the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (staxx @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 08:47 PM) If were getting Eaton, I'd like to see the sox get Holmberg/another pitcher instead of Ownings if were getting rid of peavy Owings is a SS. And Anderson is a pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord chas Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 I hold out for maximum value regardless of position. The Sox need bats but if we can acquire more quality pitching we can deal from a position of strength in the off-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 08:47 PM) There isn't much of a reason to trade Peavy. Think like going into 2005 and sign a bunch of midlevel position players and hope for the best. This would be the wrong thing to do. Peavy absolutely has to go before the deadline, he's the one guy they cant afford not to deal because of their depth in he rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 03:11 AM) This would be the wrong thing to do. Peavy absolutely has to go before the deadline, he's the one guy they cant afford not to deal because of their depth in he rotation. He's hurt, has another year and and fair value. There is zero reason to sell low on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 09:02 PM) Owings is a SS. And Anderson is a pitcher Is Ownings going to stick there? And Peavy is likely our biggest trade chip if he can come back, we should trade him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 09:22 PM) He's hurt, has another year and and fair value. There is zero reason to sell low on him. He'll likely be hurt again next year. He will always be labeled as injury prone which will take away from his trade value. He has to go at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 03:29 AM) He'll likely be hurt again next year. He will always be labeled as injury prone which will take away from his trade value. He has to go at the deadline. This is dumb. No one has to go unless they aren't going to be under contract next year. His rep as being injury prone will never be greater than right now, coming off the DL. Edited July 13, 2013 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 09:33 PM) This is dumb. No one has to go unless they aren't going to be under contract this year. His rep as being injury prone will never be greater than right now, coming off the DL. Why risk Peavy having a off year or being injured to the point where he can't be traded. The guy is a ticking time bomb he needs to go ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 (edited) A power hitting 3rd basemen that can bat in the 3-6 spot next year is what I'm really craving. A new leadoff hitter would be nice as well, of the CF or SS variety. If they can get that somewhere along the line through a trade, can keep Rios, and can sign a power hitting first basemen next year, then I believe they can contend as early as next year...Probably not for the Central because the Detroit Heat are such a good team but I can see them competing for a wild card spot if things unfold correctly. (To make it clear I'm saying with the addition of 2 impact bats they can do all this). Edited July 13, 2013 by scs787 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 12, 2013 -> 11:20 PM) (To make it clear I'm saying with the addition of 2 impact bats they can do all this). Bullpens gonna need a lot of work and the rotation will need some solidification as well. The rest of this year and the next two to come will be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 03:35 AM) Bullpens gonna need a lot of work and the rotation will need some solidification as well. The rest of this year and the next two to come will be interesting. The bullpen maybe, but I don't think the rotation will need any sort of solidification next year. The rotation right now is soooo deep that they can potentially trade 2 SPs and still have enough for a competing rotation. Right now the Sox have Sale/Peavy/Danks/Q/Santiago, and they have Johnson, Axe, and Rienzo who I believe anyone of those can be a competent #5 starter with Johnson having the potential of being much more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 13, 2013 Share Posted July 13, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Jul 13, 2013 -> 11:57 AM) The bullpen maybe, but I don't think the rotation will need any sort of solidification next year. The rotation right now is soooo deep that they can potentially trade 2 SPs and still have enough for a competing rotation. Right now the Sox have Sale/Peavy/Danks/Q/Santiago, and they have Johnson, Axe, and Rienzo who I believe anyone of those can be a competent #5 starter with Johnson having the potential of being much more. I'm personally not fond of Axelrod outside of a long relief / spot start guy. Hope we see Johnson and Rienzo this year in September. If Peavy and Danks both go, I'll want another SP. Some prospect could fit that bill. Next year isn't about being competitive - so hell - run any kid out there who may be ready. Evaluate, adapt, evaluate, adapt... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 17, 2013 Share Posted July 17, 2013 Young talent and lots of it. The Sox have got to start rebuilding their farm. It'a amazing we've gotten as much use out of it as we did. Kenny Williams did a lot of good things, leaving the farm system in good shape wasn't one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 I would love to see Polanco, Eaton, Owings and Castellanos. Sox would be well served burning down the majority of the major league roster and trading Reed. The white sox have a propensity of developing pitchers for every role and Webb appears to be the heir apparent to Reed. If 2014 is the outside shot at the second wild card and '15 is the year we make a push back to the top of the division Reed would still be under our control but it serves no purpose to have a "proven" closer on a rebuilding team when he can bring back so much, especially from a division rival. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 In a perfect world, I would love to see the Sox flip Rios, Alexei, and cash for Polanco and Kingham. I would then like to see Peavy and Crain get traded to LA for Joc Pederson and something else. I think those two will end up being legit studs at the MLB level and would be a great foundation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 High-end positional talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Good LH positional talent with strong hit tools. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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