southsideirish71 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:13 PM) Andy, I beg to differ. Because of what Robin did tonight, he has won me over as a fan. I now am in Ventura's corner through thick and thin. It takes a lot of guts to pull a player like Rios after he dogs it and hurts the team greatly. Scouts are not dumb. They know Rios loafed. What the hell is Robin supposed to do? He is a leader. Arguably his best player slapped Robin in the face by not hustling. Had he hustled, Sox woulda been leading 3-2. It's Robin's job to win games. KUDOS TO ROBIN. This is one fan who now respects Robin Ventura a lot more than before the game. I now realize Robin has a total clue of what he's doing as a LEADER. Thanks for the laugh. Awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:18 PM) A lot of players dog it down the line, but that was way too blatant to let slide. Yep, he cost Sox a run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy the Clown Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 The way things are going, he'll leave Peavy in after dominating for 100 pitches and he'll hurt himself That's a very RV thing to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Rios is screwing us over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 03:18 AM) A lot of players dog it down the line, but that was way too blatant to let slide. The thing is, he's been doing this for 2 months. Ventura has no one to blame but himself for this crap still going on. A message should have been sent a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 03:18 AM) A lot of players dog it down the line, but that was way too blatant to let slide. Agreed. I hate Ventura more than anything but any outrage here is dumb. Although I do agree with fathom that it could and should have happened before this. Edited July 20, 2013 by Buehrle>Wood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:18 PM) The way things are going, he'll leave Peavy in after dominating for 100 pitches and he'll hurt himself Ventura will probably leave him in for 120 pitches and one inning too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 03:19 AM) I'm starting to think Ventura might just be a dumb person. He's a smart guy, just not sure if he views things from the proper perspective that a manager needs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 03:20 AM) Agreed. I hate Ventura more than anything but any outrage here is dumb. I'm mad at both of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Andy the Clown @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:14 PM) He picked a helluva time to make a point. Great managing. So let me get this straight, the scouts in attendance didn't see him loaf, and had he remained in the game, the one AB he missed would have been so spectacular teams that really had little imterest would have started offering Hahn his choice of their prospects for Alex's services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 04:19 AM) I'm starting to think Ventura might just be a dumb person. And Rios a lazy rich guy? I mean, what the hell is Rios doing?? Maybe he really does want to be a White Sox forever and brilliantly deduced nobody would want him if he dogged it down the line. I mean isn't Rios paid to help the team win games? Sox would have grabbed the lead had he run hard. I mean is it too hard to run hard when you are paid that kind of money? Somebody do the math and tell me how much Rios was played to play tonight's game. How much is he paid per game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Anyone complaining about Rios being pulled who ever complains about accountability ever again is totally full of s***. This isn't just about Rios, it sends a message to the other 24 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:23 PM) And Rios a lazy rich guy? I mean, what the hell is Rios doing?? Maybe he really does want to be a White Sox forever and brilliantly deduced nobody would want him if he dogged it down the line. I mean isn't Rios paid to help the team win games? Sox would have grabbed the lead had he run hard. I mean is it too hard to run hard when you are paid that kind of money? Somebody do the math and tell me how much Rios was played to play tonight's game. How much is he paid per game? Why would you quote me when your post has nothing to do with mine? Anyway. I used to think Robin was just kind of quiet and pragmatic. Now he starting to remind me of Bruce Weber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Who knows what other conversations and consequences have gone on behind closed doors that led to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:32 PM) Who knows what other conversations and consequences have gone on behind closed doors that led to this. Viciedo was sat down for some curious play. To not sit Rios when it was so blatant, in a tie game, I don't think Ventura even had a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 You know what would be funny? People are calling Ventura "dumb." What if Rios is actually so clueless he figured he was being traded so he hugged everybody? What if Robin just told somebody to go in for him and didn't yell at him for loafing? Could Rios be that dumb he thought he got dealt, hence the hugs?? Sort of like, "Oh. He took me out. I must have gotten traded. A lot of teams need gamers like me, Alex Rios." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikep Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:19 PM) Rios is screwing us over Rios repeatedly has said he wants to stay in Chicago. Loafing to first tonight was his way of spiking any deal that might have been in the works. He also has a partial no trade clause for about 6 teams. Angered RV but probably kept him in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:52 PM) You know what would be funny? People are calling Ventura "dumb." What if Rios is actually so clueless he figured he was being traded so he hugged everybody? What if Robin just told somebody to go in for him and didn't yell at him for loafing? Could Rios be that dumb he thought he got dealt, hence the hugs?? Sort of like, "Oh. He took me out. I must have gotten traded. A lot of teams need gamers like me, Alex Rios." Yeah that's what happened. Rios is probably heading to the airport. Jokes on him, there's no ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 PS, Cell looked absolutely packed on TV tonight, any specific reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 Watch the interview of Robin's postgame with the media. He said "he knows," several times referring to Rios. It was indeed a no brainer. I would think a team would have to be crazy to take Alex Rios off the White Sox hands after this. He showed how much he cares about winning tonight. Proof is in what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 11:10 PM) Watch the interview of Robin's postgame with the media. He said "he knows," several times referring to Rios. It was indeed a no brainer. I would think a team would have to be crazy to take Alex Rios off the White Sox hands after this. He showed how much he cares about winning tonight. Proof is in what he did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 05:09 AM) PS, Cell looked absolutely packed on TV tonight, any specific reason? Just came from the game. 3 reasons 1. First game back post break 2. Fireworks night 3. Lots of Braves fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (jasonxctf @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 12:00 AM) Just came from the game. 3 reasons 1. First game back post break 2. Fireworks night 3. Lots of Braves fans Hope you had a good time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:11 PM) Ventura confirmed, Rios benched for not hustling. Wow then Konerko would never finish a game the way he runs to first base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 06:25 AM) Wow then Konerko would never finish a game the way he runs to first base. Let me rephrase that. Rios was benched for dogging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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