Big Hurtin Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Maybe because it's the situation that the Sox are in, but it seems overly quiet this year. Is it that the GMs are asking for too much? Too many teams think they're still in it? Lack of financial flexibility? I realize no one here knows for sure, but what do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 10:08 PM) Maybe because it's the situation that the Sox are in, but it seems overly quiet this year. Is it that the GMs are asking for too much? Too many teams think they're still in it? Lack of financial flexibility? I realize no one here knows for sure, but what do you guys think? Garza deal must start the parade of trades. Sox face big challenges in trying to move guys who make a lot of money and have skill sets that can be debated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 If I were the Cubs, I wouldn't get too greedy with Garza. Right now, they have the most desirable starting pitcher on the market. However, if Peavy comes back strong tomorrow, I think a lot of teams would prefer paying a premium for the guy with another 2 1/2 years of team control than the pure rental. Also, one thing that hurts teams acquiring Garza is they no longer get a comp pick if he leaves. That rule change is going to have a huge change on the value of rentals going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 19, 2013 Author Share Posted July 19, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 06:32 PM) If I were the Cubs, I wouldn't get too greedy with Garza. Right now, they have the most desirable starting pitcher on the market. However, if Peavy comes back strong tomorrow, I think a lot of teams would prefer paying a premium for the guy with another 2 1/2 years of team control than the pure rental. Also, one thing that hurts teams acquiring Garza is they no longer get a comp pick if he leaves. That rule change is going to have a huge change on the value of rentals going forward. Yeah, I had forgotten about that. That has to be a big factor as well, as rentals' value decreases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitekrazy Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 Maybe Hahn is one of those guys who are quiet. Nothing wrong with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 19, 2013 Share Posted July 19, 2013 There is 12 days left, people are probably trying to drive up costs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 06:06 PM) There is 12 days left, people are probably trying to drive up costs Yea and the GMs of fringe teams maybe want to hold another week to better gauge their chances. Any big in-division series this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 The closer to the deadline the more likely someone is going to panic and give up a lot more than they normally would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 I think Crain would have been moved already if he hadn't been hurt. The other guys we are under less pressure to move, so we can wait to make sure we find the best offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (EvilJester99 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 07:14 PM) The closer to the deadline the more likely someone is going to panic and give up a lot more than they normally would. Or the more likely a selling team is to cave and just get what they can when they can. It's a two way street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted July 20, 2013 Author Share Posted July 20, 2013 Also, I was referring to it being quiet throughout baseball. I don't want Hahn to make a move just to make one either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Big Hurtin @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 09:01 PM) Also, I was referring to it being quiet throughout baseball. I don't want Hahn to make a move just to make one either. The answer to that question is "Kenny Williams is no longer a GM". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 08:03 PM) The answer to that question is "Kenny Williams is no longer a GM". Wasn't he knows as 'stealth' 'under the radar' GM? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 20, 2013 Share Posted July 20, 2013 QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Wasn't he knows as 'stealth' 'under the radar' GM? He was beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jul 19, 2013 -> 09:08 PM) He was beautiful. There are plenty of teams that need help in both leagues. Right now they're all trying to pretend they are going with other options and not willing to give up minor league talent in order to squeeze the sellers into accepting less .This is balanced by the sellers saying we have our asking price and we aren't going to settle for less. So the buyers reassess their teams day by day hoping they don't go on any losing streaks in the last 10 days before the deadline. Eventually someone will cave. Sox don't have to move Peavy or Rios but they're in a prime position because they seem to possess the most talent on the market right now. Yet they have the offseason and next year to trade either or both . The iron might never be hotter for the Sox . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 09:06 PM) There are plenty of teams that need help in both leagues. Right now they're all trying to pretend they are going with other options and not willing to give up minor league talent in order to squeeze the sellers into accepting less .This is balanced by the sellers saying we have our asking price and we aren't going to settle for less. So the buyers reassess their teams day by day hoping they don't go on any losing streaks in the last 10 days before the deadline. Eventually someone will cave. Sox don't have to move Peavy or Rios but they're in a prime position because they seem to possess the most talent on the market right now. Yet they have the offseason and next year to trade either or both . The iron might never be hotter for the Sox . Totally dead on as always Cali Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (hi8is @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 10:27 PM) Totally dead on as always Cali You da man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiliIrishHammock24 Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 We have about 6 guys that I think NEED to be traded in the next 10 days. We better be making at least 3 trades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (Chilihead90 @ Jul 20, 2013 -> 10:55 PM) We have about 6 guys that I think NEED to be traded in the next 10 days. We better be making at least 3 trades. What 6 are those ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justBLAZE Posted July 21, 2013 Share Posted July 21, 2013 QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 21, 2013 -> 01:13 AM) What 6 are those ? I'm going to speak for Joe: Rios Peavy Lindstrom Crain Ramirez DeAza? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 What are the chances of the Sox stand pat and not make a major move? I would hate to see Rios, Peavy and Ramirez's contract not being moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 04:37 AM) What are the chances of the Sox stand pat and not make a major move? I would hate to see Rios, Peavy and Ramirez's contract not being moved. I will say very high. I dont think any of those three will be gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish71 Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 10:37 PM) What are the chances of the Sox stand pat and not make a major move? I would hate to see Rios, Peavy and Ramirez's contract not being moved. The front office has been reluctant for a rebuild. They might want to roll the dice again and see if they can surprise. We didn't rebuild in 2007. As much as we should tear it down this FO might not have the stomach for it. Worse case scenario we trade Rios only for C prospects and salary relief. Crain might be a waiver deal if he can't pitch before the deadline. Edited July 23, 2013 by southsideirish71 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 23, 2013 -> 04:40 AM) I will say very high. I dont think any of those three will be gone. I don't see how they don't trade Peavy. I think he's gone by the deadline, same with Lindstrom and probably Crain. I don't think Rios/Ramirez get dealt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted July 23, 2013 Share Posted July 23, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 22, 2013 -> 10:44 PM) I don't see how they don't trade Peavy. I think he's gone by the deadline, same with Lindstrom and probably Crain. I don't think Rios/Ramirez get dealt. I'm saying Rios goes too--Pittsburgh makes sense, and if Nelson Cruz gets busted, the Rangers will call. Alexei...no. His remaining contract is too big to take on. Sox would have to eat too much. I also think there will be one surprise deal that nobody sees coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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