BigEdWalsh Posted July 24, 2013 Share Posted July 24, 2013 Let's win one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 First post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ginger Kid Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Danks looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 I pray to god someone claims Danks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Whee. I can't wait for some trades to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:17 PM) Danks looks good false. that was fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 12:17 AM) I pray to god someone claims Danks. Yep...he's giving up the long ball at a crazy rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:21 PM) Yep...he's giving up the long ball at a crazy rate. A little early to be giving up on Danks. I think we all knew that the recovering version of John Danks was going to deal with longball issues. He never got lefties out. Can't be surprising when one of the best LH power hitters in the game takes him deep. Cut him some slack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 12:23 AM) A little early to be giving up on Danks. I think we all knew that the recovering version of John Danks was going to deal with longball issues. He never got lefties out. Can't be surprising when one of the best LH power hitters in the game takes him deep. Cut him some slack I've said all along Danks has had better stuff than I expected him to have. The reason that myself, and others, would love if someone took his contract off the Sox' hands is due to the poor history of pitchers fully recovering from shoulder surgery. Also, I don't believe he'll ever have the command necessary to pitch without a plus fastball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Simple question Jake...if you could let Danks go on a waiver claim and get nothing in return, would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:23 PM) A little early to be giving up on Danks. I think we all knew that the recovering version of John Danks was going to deal with longball issues. He never got lefties out. Can't be surprising when one of the best LH power hitters in the game takes him deep. Cut him some slack You'd rather owe him the monsterous amount left on his contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 05:26 PM) Simple question Jake...if you could let Danks go on a waiver claim and get nothing in return, would you do it? I don't know how you could say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 12:28 AM) I don't know how you could say no. Yep, and it would solve any concerns about having too many LHP in the rotation. I just find it very hard to believe he'll perform well enough to earn this extension he's received. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShandyMan Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 this team would have a runner on 3rd with no outs and get 0 runs. lineout, strike out, strike out... welcome to your 2013 chicago white sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:26 PM) Simple question Jake...if you could let Danks go on a waiver claim and get nothing in return, would you do it? I'd have to think about it. Probably not. His xFIP is 3.8, which is pretty much where he's been his entire career. If someone is claiming him now, they'll probably claim him a year from now too. Even in the worst case, I don't see him getting worse. I'll hold on to him. We're not hurting for money right now anyway. Selling off assets at minimal value seems silly for us at this point anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Damn do we suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 05:31 PM) I'd have to think about it. Probably not. His xFIP is 3.8, which is pretty much where he's been his entire career. If someone is claiming him now, they'll probably claim him a year from now too. Even in the worst case, I don't see him getting worse. I'll hold on to him. We're not hurting for money right now anyway. Selling off assets at minimal value seems silly for us at this point anyway. It's not so much his performance to me as the fact that he just doesn't really fit into the gameplan anymore. I'd rather put that money in the bank and use it when we're actually competitive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2013 -> 01:33 AM) It's not so much his performance to me as the fact that he just doesn't really fit into the gameplan anymore. I'd rather put that money in the bank and use it when we're actually competitive. Yep! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:33 PM) It's not so much his performance to me as the fact that he just doesn't really fit into the gameplan anymore. I'd rather put that money in the bank and use it when we're actually competitive. this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:33 PM) It's not so much his performance to me as the fact that he just doesn't really fit into the gameplan anymore. I'd rather put that money in the bank and use it when we're actually competitive. He fits in most gameplans for me. Win next year? Perhaps your only real veteran starter (can we call Sale that after two years of starting?). Rebuilding? Salary won't matter and you hold on to him hoping his value increases as he gets healthier. Some sort of rebuild/reload? Wait to see how the team does and act like you were going with either plan A or plan B all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 Kilt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 07:31 PM) I'd have to think about it. Probably not. His xFIP is 3.8, which is pretty much where he's been his entire career. If someone is claiming him now, they'll probably claim him a year from now too. Even in the worst case, I don't see him getting worse. I'll hold on to him. We're not hurting for money right now anyway. Selling off assets at minimal value seems silly for us at this point anyway. I wouldn't consider Danks an asset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamshack Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 05:36 PM) He fits in most gameplans for me. Win next year? Perhaps your only real veteran starter (can we call Sale that after two years of starting?). Rebuilding? Salary won't matter and you hold on to him hoping his value increases as he gets healthier. Some sort of rebuild/reload? Wait to see how the team does and act like you were going with either plan A or plan B all along. In what world does $15 million a year not matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigEdWalsh Posted July 25, 2013 Author Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Wanne @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 06:35 PM) this This too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted July 25, 2013 Share Posted July 25, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Jul 24, 2013 -> 08:37 PM) I wouldn't consider Danks an asset. As usual, someone actually used a stat to say why tey think he's an asset, and that point gets ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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