QuickJones81 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 According to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun the Orioles are out on Peavy and covet Bud Norris and Sale. One in the hand is worth two in the bush, so to me the conversation starts with Bundy AND Gausman plus 2 to 3 lottery ticket prospects. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (QuickJones81 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:32 AM) According to Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun the Orioles are out on Peavy and covet Bud Norris and Sale. One in the hand is worth two in the bush, so to me the conversation starts with Bundy AND Gausman plus 2 to 3 lottery ticket prospects. Thoughts? You can get a current TJ patient for a future patient. It could come down to the battle of the surgeons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 They don't have the bullets, this is a non-starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thank god you're not a gm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwolf68 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 What a joke. We're trying to move an aging, high tread worn veteran that still possesses good talent and the ability to help someone while getting younger and building for the future and the freaking Orioles want part of that future? I say never say never...but it would take a king's ransom. I mean a ridiculous overpay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Manny Machado or no deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harfman77 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:33 AM) They don't have the bullets, this is a non-starter. Agree. They have a few top end guys, but I can't see them moving Machado and without him involved, a deal is impossible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigruss Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm open to trading Sale, but the price would be so goddamn much no decent GM would ever accept it. Sale is an ace, with a good contract as well now. Even if you take the top 5 prospects from another org, you'd be playing the odds that maybe 1 of them turns into an all-star. If I'm trading Sale, I want to play the odds that 2 of them turn into perennial all-stars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm sure they DO covet Sale. I imagine the best offer would be Bundy (TJ), Gausman, Schoop, two lesser guys. I wouldn't take that deal. It would have to include Machado, and the Orioles wouldn't move Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 LOL I'd take Machado in a minute, but they could never sell that to the fanbase Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm sure 29 other teams covet Sale. 28 of those can't pay for him. The other has him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:39 AM) LOL I'd take Machado in a minute, but they could never sell that to the fanbase In order for the Sox to sell it to their fanbase, they would need to get Machado. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:42 AM) In order for the Sox to sell it to their fanbase, they would need to get Machado. True, probably. Even though I am skeptical of how beloved Sale is by the average fan. People just don't tend to fall in love with pitchers...especially when they grow such pathetic beards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:41 AM) I'm sure 29 other teams covet Sale. 28 of those can't pay for him. The other has him. Yeah, not to be a dick, but this is a silly thread. Of course they covet Sale. Every team in the majors covets Sale. If the Orioles were serious, it would take Machado to get him. Otherwise, they'd need to offer Bundy, Gausman, Schoop, Rodriguez and Marin for me even to consider it. None of it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:43 AM) True, probably. Even though I am skeptical of how beloved Sale is by the average fan. People just don't tend to fall in love with pitchers...especially when they grow such pathetic beards True. Sale needs to learn from Kane and go with the mullet if your beard growing skills are so weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 They covet Sale and Bud Norris? That's like coveting a Mercedes and a Malibu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:44 AM) Yeah, not to be a dick, but this is a silly thread. Of course they covet Sale. Every team in the majors covets Sale. If the Orioles were serious, it would take Machado to get him. Otherwise, they'd need to offer Bundy, Gausman, Schoop, Rodriguez and Marin for me even to consider it. None of it will happen. Would people do: Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausman, Eduardo Ridriguez, Jonathan Schoops, LJ Hoes, and Adrian Marin? I think the Sox would at least think about it. That completely depletes Baltimore's farm system. It would give the Sox 3 top of the rotation starters. Baltimore would never make that deal. That's what it'd take though, at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunt Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:36 AM) Manny Machado or no deal Only way this would ever have a shot at happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 10:51 AM) Would people do: Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausman, Eduardo Ridriguez, Jonathan Schoops, LJ Hoes, and Adrian Marin? I think the Sox would at least think about it. That completely depletes Baltimore's farm system. It would give the Sox 3 top of the rotation starters. Baltimore would never make that deal. That's what it'd take though, at least. Aside from including major league talent there's no package the Orioles could possibly put together that would even get me thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 The only Sale the Orioles need to worry about is Angelo selling that team to a decent owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 03:51 PM) Would people do: Dylan Bundy, Kevin Gausman, Eduardo Ridriguez, Jonathan Schoops, LJ Hoes, and Adrian Marin? I think the Sox would at least think about it. That completely depletes Baltimore's farm system. It would give the Sox 3 top of the rotation starters. Baltimore would never make that deal. That's what it'd take though, at least. We had this discussion in the other thread but you need a young all star position player and then some to start talking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 kinda how the Sox covet Trout?...that kind of covet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:02 AM) We had this discussion in the other thread but you need a young all star position player and then some to start talking. Yea someone to get kids around here excited. That's why I think Trout is the only target here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Sale is not better than Manny Machado. Let's make that clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Jul 30, 2013 -> 11:16 AM) Sale is not better than Manny Machado. Let's make that clear. Machado has a hell of an arm, but I'd argue that Sale is a better pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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