Steve9347 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2013 -> 02:52 PM) Rangers Press Release 8/5/2013 3:22 P.M. ET Statement from Nelson Cruz I have been notified by the Commissioner of Major League Baseball that I have been suspended for 50 games for violation of the Joint Drug Agreement. I have decided to accept this suspension and not exercise my rights under the Basic Agreement to appeal. From November, 2011 to January, 2012, I was seriously ill with a gastrointestinal infection, helicobacter pylori, which went undiagnosed for over a month. By the time I was properly diagnosed and treated, I had lost 40 pounds. Just weeks before I was to report to spring training in 2012, I was unsure whether I would be physically able to play. Faced with this situation, I made an error in judgment that I deeply regret, and I accept full responsibility for that error. I should have handled the situation differently, and my illness was no excuse. I am thankful for the unwavering support of my family, friends, and teammates during this difficult time. I look forward to regaining the trust and respect of the Rangers organization, my teammates, and the great Rangers' fans, and I am grateful for the opportunity to rejoin the team for the playoffs. Go f*** him and his bulls***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 5, 2013 -> 02:58 PM) What ARod supposedly did was far more serious than what Melky did. I don't think that comparison is going to buy Arod anything. It was interferring with the investigation. It isn't worth quadruple time. This entire suspension is to appease the Yankees for one, and to make him an example. No one could really think if ARod was working off a contract similar to Peralta or Cruz that his punishment would be more than 4 times what everyone elses is besides Braun who no so coincidentally has a huge contract himself.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2013 -> 02:47 PM) One name I would bet money on being juiced played with Frank for a long time. I always "wondered" about Jose Valentin. He was jacked. Without being completely homoerotic... I remember seeing a locker room interview with some Sox player and Ozuna was in the back ground without a shirt on. He was jacked up too. Even before the positive test(s). Edited August 5, 2013 by Jillian Michaels' Abs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Good job idiot... Keith Olbermann @KeithOlbermann 4m No truth to rumors #Yankees are offering #WhiteSox pitcher Luis Quintana cash to dust Alex Rodriguez in 1st AB tonight... (I think) Also no truth to rumors #HickoryHuskers is offering #Anybody cash to dust Keith Olbermann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2013 -> 03:01 PM) Good job idiot... Keith Olbermann @KeithOlbermann 4m No truth to rumors #Yankees are offering #WhiteSox pitcher Luis Quintana cash to dust Alex Rodriguez in 1st AB tonight... (I think) Which Luis Quintana? This one? Or This one? Or maybe this one? Gotta be the last one, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 QUOTE (Jillian Michaels' Abs @ Aug 5, 2013 -> 03:09 PM) I always "wondered" about Jose Valentin. He was jacked. Without being completely homoerotic... I remember seeing a locker room interview with some Sox player and Ozuna was in the back ground without a shirt on. He was jacked up too. Even before the positive test(s). 2 White Sox legends who both posted .919 OPS when they were 40 years old, over .100 points higher than their career totals were Baines and Fisk. If they were associated with other teams, I think they would be guys Sox fans would suspect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Which Luis Quintana? This one? Or This one? Or maybe this one? Gotta be the last one, right? Olbermann has never let facts get in the way of his opinions before. Why should he start now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Jeff Passan @JeffPassan 6m MLBPA chief Michael Weiner says he doesn't see decision on A-Rod appeal until after the 2013 season ends. Likely November or December. Weiner: “What I think they’re doing inappropriate is imposing a penalty that is way too harsh. We’ve never had a 200-plus penalty ...on a player who may have used drugs. Among other things, I think that’s way out of line.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 5, 2013 -> 03:01 PM) Good job idiot... Keith Olbermann @KeithOlbermann 4m No truth to rumors #Yankees are offering #WhiteSox pitcher Luis Quintana cash to dust Alex Rodriguez in 1st AB tonight... (I think) Considering Jose Quintana was once suspended for PEDs . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cabiness42 Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Just released to stores: Updated Tigers 2012 Championship Banner: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 How long have the current MLB testing standards been in effect? Having an argument right now with someone who likes to pretend they are the same as they've always been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 02:15 PM) How long have the current MLB testing standards been in effect? Having an argument right now with someone who likes to pretend they are the same as they've always been. The current testing regime was just adopted in the last CBA, and I am not sure how long it has actually been in operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:15 PM) How long have the current MLB testing standards been in effect? Having an argument right now with someone who likes to pretend they are the same as they've always been. The 50/100/life penalties have been in effect for a long time (2006 I think) but MLB was supposed to just begin blood testing and HGH testing this year. Prior to this year they've only been doing urine tests, which can catch the occasional idiot like Ryan Braun but are much easier to mask and cannot be tested for HGH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) The 50/100/life penalties have been in effect for a long time (2006 I think) but MLB was supposed to just begin blood testing and HGH testing this year. Prior to this year they've only been doing urine tests, which can catch the occasional idiot like Ryan Braun but are much easier to mask and cannot be tested for HGH. That's what I thought. They also test for synthetic testosterone. Pretty sure the NFL only does urine tests, which only catches people who are sloppy, and the NBA's is a total joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) The current testing regime was just adopted in the last CBA, and I am not sure how long it has actually been in operation. I think it's been around since 2003 in some way shape or form, but it's only been strong enough to be effective starting this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 02:23 PM) That's what I thought. They also test for synthetic testosterone. Pretty sure the NFL only does urine tests, which only catches people who are sloppy, and the NBA's is a total joke. And a ton of guys STILL get caught in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 02:24 PM) I think it's been around since 2003 in some way shape or form, but it's only been strong enough to be effective starting this year. Yeah, but this past CBA really ramped up what they can catch versus what it was when they started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:29 PM) Yeah, but this past CBA really ramped up what they can catch versus what it was when they started. NFL fans at large are pretty much in denial about PEDs in the NFL and I'm getting really tired of them s***ting on MLB for all the cheaters. Did MLB turn a blind eye towards PED use for 10 years and pretend they didn't have a widespread problem? Absolutely. But the NFL is doing that RIGHT NOW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 02:34 PM) NFL fans at large are pretty much in denial about PEDs in the NFL and I'm getting really tired of them s***ting on MLB for all the cheaters. Did MLB turn a blind eye towards PED use for 10 years and pretend they didn't have a widespread problem? Absolutely. But the NFL is doing that RIGHT NOW. The NFL has been doing it since the 70's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:40 PM) The NFL has been doing it since the 70's. Yeah, and we wonder why head trauma has gotten so much worse in the last 20 years. HELLOOOOO? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 6, 2013 Author Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:42 PM) Yeah, and we wonder why head trauma has gotten so much worse in the last 20 years. HELLOOOOO? Really, you think it's gotten worse? I think it's just gotten recognized. 20 years ago a guy with a concussion gets sent back out to play unless he's a QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 02:34 PM) NFL fans at large are pretty much in denial about PEDs in the NFL and I'm getting really tired of them s***ting on MLB for all the cheaters. Did MLB turn a blind eye towards PED use for 10 years and pretend they didn't have a widespread problem? Absolutely. But the NFL is doing that RIGHT NOW. I just don't think the NFL fans care that much. If it wasn't for the sacred home run record in baseball, fans wouldn't have been as upset either. If suddenly NFL QBs started throwing the ball 95 yards or running 3.95 40s, people might raise an eyebrow. Otherwise, you don't notice the clean or dirty guys, just still a bunch of large men hitting each other, PEDs don't affect their viewing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:44 PM) Really, you think it's gotten worse? I think it's just gotten recognized. 20 years ago a guy with a concussion gets sent back out to play unless he's a QB. I think it's both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostfan Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 03:47 PM) I just don't think the NFL fans care that much. If it wasn't for the sacred home run record in baseball, fans wouldn't have been as upset either. If suddenly NFL QBs started throwing the ball 95 yards or running 3.95 40s, people might raise an eyebrow. Otherwise, you don't notice the clean or dirty guys, just still a bunch of large men hitting each other, PEDs don't affect their viewing. I think that's all well and good, but with that attitude they've got no business throwing rocks at MLB for what they're doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 6, 2013 -> 02:50 PM) I think that's all well and good, but with that attitude they've got no business throwing rocks at MLB for what they're doing. I didn't see or hear the people going after MLB, but you can bet that if Adrian Peterson or Aaron Rodgers were ever busted for PEDs, the NFL fans would be signing a different tune as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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