Quin Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) Could be. The bent knees are obvious, however. Thing is, we're not going to win anything until the players improve their on base percentage. Big Hurt somehow hit for power and also walked a lot. He did that by being one of the greatest hitters of all time. Edited August 16, 2013 by Quinarvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 Hawk keeps chattering about Konerko coming back in 2014. Actually, it would not surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (oldsox @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 08:04 AM) Hawk keeps chattering about Konerko coming back in 2014. Actually, it would not surprise me. Then we can give him a standing O when his new team comes to Chicago, as long as someone convinces that manager to let him start a game that series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) Could be. The bent knees are obvious, however. Thing is, we're not going to win anything until the players improve their on base percentage. Big Hurt somehow hit for power and also walked a lot. Will the team learn on base principles by osmosis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 04:04 PM) Big Hurt somehow hit for power and also walked a lot. Wonder why Juan Pierre didn't try that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 09:17 AM) Wonder why Juan Pierre didn't try that Not enough TWTW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 09:21 AM) Not enough TWTW Don't you remember when Juan Pierre won a World Series with the Marlins his first year with the team? COME ON MAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 09:21 AM) Not enough TWTW You really need to use TWTW+ to account for league and park factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 09:25 AM) You really need to use TWTW+ to account for league and park factors. And in Juan's case we should look at TWTfW because he is small guy, so he falls in The Will To f***ing Win category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 TWTfW is only second to TGPot2005T in player evaluation importance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 09:42 AM) TWTfW is only second to TGPot2005T in player evaluation importance The biggest stat of all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickofypres Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 10:25 AM) You really need to use TWTW+ to account for league and park factors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 08:10 AM) Then we can give him a standing O when his new team comes to Chicago, as long as someone convinces that manager to let him start a game that series. I don't know. He has shown he can come back strong from injuries. His back has been bothering him all season. If it gets right he may be able to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 08:44 PM) I still don't know what kind of power he has because of that wrist injury. It's going to cost him power all year, that was said when the injury first happened. Could be true. Although it should have started to rebound by now. Maybe he is just getting comfortable again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 11:16 AM) I don't know. He has shown he can come back strong from injuries. His back has been bothering him all season. If it gets right he may be able to do it. That's great, but a "guy in his late 30's trying to heal up his back and come back for 1 more year" really wouldn't have any place on a team like where the 2014 white sox will be. The 2014 White Sox seem like every guy on their Roster should be someone that they're stuck with because of contracts (Danks, Dunn), someone who has a future with the team (90% of the roster), and maybe a bullpen or bench guy veteran thrown in to be a veteran and possibly be traded at the deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 10:28 AM) That's great, but a "guy in his late 30's trying to heal up his back and come back for 1 more year" really wouldn't have any place on a team like where the 2014 white sox will be. The 2014 White Sox seem like every guy on their Roster should be someone that they're stuck with because of contracts (Danks, Dunn), someone who has a future with the team (90% of the roster), and maybe a bullpen or bench guy veteran thrown in to be a veteran and possibly be traded at the deadline. I'm not saying it's the right move, just that with JRs loyalty I wouldn't rule it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 I'm ready to say goodbye to Paulie. Great career, no reason to drag it down into zombie territory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 11:37 AM) I'm ready to say goodbye to Paulie. Great career, no reason to drag it down into zombie territory. Yep. Thanks for the memories, but it's time to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pettie4sox Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (HickoryHuskers @ Aug 15, 2013 -> 07:53 AM) My vote is for Kate Upton. She's definitely FAMOUS and you have her in the dugout with just a jersey on and no pants and attendance will skyrocket. LMAO she is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 02:10 PM) Then we can give him a standing O when his new team comes to Chicago, as long as someone convinces that manager to let him start a game that series. Uh oh. I'm sensing somebody doesn't like Paulie very much. We'll never know how badly his injuries have been. My guess is they've been really bad. If so he'll probably retire. QUOTE (ptatc @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 04:16 PM) I don't know. He has shown he can come back strong from injuries. His back has been bothering him all season. If it gets right he may be able to do it. PTATC do you think if his back is killing him, he'll just retire? Back pain probably is even keeping him awake all night, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) Uh oh. I'm sensing somebody doesn't like Paulie very much. We'll never know how badly his injuries have been. My guess is they've been really bad. If so he'll probably retire. Funny how you can excuse a player having literally the worst season of any 1B in the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 01:38 PM) Funny how you can excuse a player having literally the worst season of any 1B in the majors. TGPot2005T=Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 01:19 PM) Uh oh. I'm sensing somebody doesn't like Paulie very much. We'll never know how badly his injuries have been. My guess is they've been really bad. If so he'll probably retire. Come on, man. We all love Paulie. 38 year olds with back, knee, foot, and wrist problems are typically on their way out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 PTATC can you comment on whether Paulie's back pain is affecting his sleep? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted August 16, 2013 Share Posted August 16, 2013 QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 16, 2013 -> 01:49 PM) PTATC can you comment on whether Paulie's back pain is affecting his sleep? haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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