Boopa1219 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 12:33 PM) Personally I wouldn't have a problem with the 4 lefty rotation since they aren't the same kind of guy, but I somewhat doubt that the White Sox organization is bold enough to do that. That said, there are a couple other concerns as well. The Sox should also take into account what they can get for these guys and whether they are truly ready to put one of Rienzo and Johnson in AAA or in the bullpen next year (which I would absolutely hat - edit - I mean having them in the pen). I don't know who the top 1-2 3b prospects in baseball these days are, but if the Sox could get someone like that and a pitcher for Gillaspie and Santiago, I could very well be interested. A very intriguing 3B prospect is Corey Seager from the Dodgers, he was the 18th overall pick in the 2012 draft out of HS. They have him playing SS now, but he is 6'4 215lbs so a move to the corner is in his future. He's batting .293 with 14HR and 63RBI this year, and he has struck out 69 times and walked 42. The White Sox could get him in a deal since he is blocked by Hanley Ramirez and due to the fact that the Dodgers are in win now mode and are willing to part with their top prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pktmotion Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 Decline on Floyd & Konerko...(hopefully Paulie just retires) Try to move Dunn & Danks (maybe could see Dunn moved but it's highly unlikely for both to be moved) Extend Sale, Beckham, & maybe Quintana /or Reed Sign Tim Lincecum & Delmon Young Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 QUOTE (pktmotion @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Sign Tim Lincecum & Delmon Young Oh God no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (pktmotion @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Sign Delmon Young Was this a joke? He was just released by the Phillies. Over 8 seasons, he has amassed a career WAR of -1.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vance Law Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (pktmotion @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 03:14 PM) Sign Delmon Young Was this a joke? He was just released by the Phillies. Over 8 seasons, he has amassed a career WAR of -1.3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) Why is there no second thought if a team has an all right handed rotation, yet 4 or more lefties im a rotation is taboo? As far as I am concerned the Sox should worry about quality, not from which side they throw. There are more right-handed hitters and more of the best hitters are right handed. No harm in shopping him. His only problem this year has been giving up homers. A bigger home park might minimize that. The Sox have other needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 10:31 PM) There are more right-handed hitters and more of the best hitters are right handed. No harm in shopping him. His only problem this year has been giving up homers. A bigger home park might minimize that. The Sox have other needs. I agree. It's not that any of us care about the handedness, the debate is about what the FO thinks. Maybe the Giants want another lefty signed for a while? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 17, 2013 -> 12:16 PM) Why is there no second thought if a team has an all right handed rotation, yet 4 or more lefties im a rotation is taboo? As far as I am concerned the Sox should worry about quality, not from which side they throw. I agree. Any lefty who can't get righties out is already in your bullpen anyway. Donnie Veal, will you please stand up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 C Phegley 1B Abreau 2B Beckham SS Semien 3B Keppinger/Gillaspie LF Logan Morrison CF De Aza RF Garcia SP Sale SP Quintana SP Santiago or Johnson SP Danks SP Rienzo Deal Santiago or Johnson for Morrison, when Dunn goes after 2014 shift Abreau or Morrison to DH. De Aza Beckham Morrison Abreau Dunn Garcia Keppinger/Gillaspie Semien Phegley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Marty, that would be a horrendous overpay for LoMo. His price would be more like Dayan, which I'm sure you would be all for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:18 AM) Marty, that would be a horrendous overpay for LoMo. His price would be more like Dayan, which I'm sure you would be all for. If you can get him for less then by all means yu do it. What did you think of the return for Alex Rios? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) If you can get him for less then by all means yu do it. What did you think of the return for Alex Rios? to be determined Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Jake @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:24 AM) to be determined Come on now . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:14 AM) C Phegley 1B Abreau 2B Beckham SS Semien 3B Keppinger/Gillaspie LF Logan Morrison CF De Aza RF Garcia SP Sale SP Quintana SP Santiago or Johnson SP Danks SP Rienzo Deal Santiago or Johnson for Morrison, when Dunn goes after 2014 shift Abreau or Morrison to DH. De Aza Beckham Morrison Abreau Dunn Garcia Keppinger/Gillaspie Semien Phegley Santiago or Johnson for Morrison would be an absolutley horrific move. We're talking about a guy who is arb-eligible next year and has basically shown as much as Viciedo at the major league level. On top of that, he's an infamous "LF" which you've personally claimed you don't waste time developing, since they are so easy to come by. Trading our best pitching prospect or a major league starter with top of the rotation potential to get said player makes this the strangest and most contradictory suggestion you have ever made on this board. Edited August 18, 2013 by Chicago White Sox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:22 AM) If you can get him for less then by all means yu do it. What did you think of the return for Alex Rios? The Rios return is the return they should expect for Lo Mo. Not a very good young starting pitcher. Edited August 18, 2013 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (GreenSox @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:48 AM) The Rios return is the return they should expect for Lo Mo. Not a very good young starting pitcher. Carlos Sanchez and maybe Mitchell for LoMo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Johnson is one of the best SP prospects in baseball at this point so they won't trade him except in a package for a big bat. Santiago I could see moved for LoMo plus MiLB pieces. His walks sap his value, although he has been better as a starter. The main question is why the Marlins would be buying when they are as bad, if not worse, than the Sox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 Logan Morrison sucks. My God... Logan Morrison? Jesus, Marty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) First off, I would not trade for Logan Morrison. This is what I would do if I were Hahn. Sign both Morales and McCann to 2-3 year deals. Next would be finding left handed relief help. JP Howell and Pedro Feliciano come to mind to try and help this bullpen. I would pick up Lindstrom's option to just to give a little depth to the bullpen. As far as the starting rotation goes, I think if Erik Johnson isn't ready, sign one of Josh Johnson, Edinson Volquez or Tim Lincecum. But if Johnson is then push Rienzo to the bullpen to take Axelrod's spot. As far as trades, this is how I would go at it. I could definitely see the Angels being interested in Santiago and/or Quintana. I would rather keep both but for the sake of making the team better, I would trade Santiago to the Angels for CJ Cron, Alex Yarbough and Mike Morin. I then would still try and trade Alexei so I would trade him to the Cardinals for Pete Kozma, Charlie Tilson, and Tim Cooney. Line up would be CF De Aza 2B Beckham C McCann DH Morales 1B Dunn RF Garcia LF Viciedo 3B Gillaspie SS Kozma Bench C Phegley UTIL Garcia OF Danks Free Agent Rotation Sale Quintana Danks Erik Johnson Josh Johnson/Edinson Volquez/Tim Lincecum Bullpen Rienzo Lindstrom Howell Veal Petricka Jones Reed Thoughts? Edited August 18, 2013 by SoxPride18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 12:02 PM) Logan Morrison sucks. My God... Logan Morrison? Jesus, Marty. You don't like a 119 OPS+? Edited August 18, 2013 by Marty34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:40 AM) Santiago or Johnson for Morrison would be an absolutley horrific move. We're talking about a guy who is arb-eligible next year and has basically shown as much as Viciedo at the major league level. On top of that, he's an infamous "LF" which you've personally claimed you don't waste time developing, since they are so easy to come by. Trading our best pitching prospect or a major league starter with top of the rotation potential to get said player makes this the strangest and most contradictory suggestion you have ever made on this board. Morrison has the attributes needed for a prottype #3 hitter. 119 OPS+. Who are other young hitters who can be targeted? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGajewski18 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 First off, I would not trade for Logan Morrison. This is what I would do if I were Hahn. Sign both Morales and McCann to 2-3 year deals. Next would be finding left handed relief help. JP Howell and Pedro Feliciano come to mind to try and help this bullpen. I would pick up Lindstrom's option to just to give a little depth to the bullpen. As far as the starting rotation goes, I think if Erik Johnson isn't ready, sign one of Josh Johnson, Edinson Volquez or Tim Lincecum. But if Johnson is then push Rienzo to the bullpen to take Axelrod's spot. As far as trades, this is how I would go at it. I could definitely see the Angels being interested in Santiago and/or Quintana. I would rather keep both but for the sake of making the team better, I would trade Santiago to the Angels for CJ Cron, Alex Yarbough and Mike Morin. I then would still try and trade Alexei so I would trade him to the Cardinals for Pete Kozma, Charlie Tilson, and Tim Cooney. Line up would be CF De Aza 2B Beckham C McCann DH Morales 1B Dunn RF Garcia LF Viciedo 3B Gillaspie SS Kozma Bench C Phegley UTIL Garcia OF Danks Free Agent Rotation Sale Quintana Danks Erik Johnson Josh Johnson/Edinson Volquez/Tim Lincecum Bullpen Rienzo Lindstrom Howell Veal Petricka Jones Reed Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (daggins @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 11:55 AM) Johnson is one of the best SP prospects in baseball at this point so they won't trade him except in a package for a big bat. Santiago I could see moved for LoMo plus MiLB pieces. His walks sap his value, although he has been better as a starter. The main question is why the Marlins would be buying when they are as bad, if not worse, than the Sox? Maybe the Marlins want to get (even) younger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (Marty34 @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 12:36 PM) Morrison has the attributes needed for a prottype #3 hitter. 119 OPS+. Who are other young hitters who can be targeted? Seriously? He walks a little, has declining power and is on the verge of being fat. Everything about him screams roids. He's also ugly and has a stupid haircut. He is left handed though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty34 Posted August 18, 2013 Share Posted August 18, 2013 QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 18, 2013 -> 12:39 PM) First off, I would not trade for Logan Morrison. This is what I would do if I were Hahn. Sign both Morales and McCann to 2-3 year deals. Next would be finding left handed relief help. JP Howell and Pedro Feliciano come to mind to try and help this bullpen. I would pick up Lindstrom's option to just to give a little depth to the bullpen. As far as the starting rotation goes, I think if Erik Johnson isn't ready, sign one of Josh Johnson, Edinson Volquez or Tim Lincecum. But if Johnson is then push Rienzo to the bullpen to take Axelrod's spot. As far as trades, this is how I would go at it. I could definitely see the Angels being interested in Santiago and/or Quintana. I would rather keep both but for the sake of making the team better, I would trade Santiago to the Angels for CJ Cron, Alex Yarbough and Mike Morin. I then would still try and trade Alexei so I would trade him to the Cardinals for Pete Kozma, Charlie Tilson, and Tim Cooney. Line up would be CF De Aza 2B Beckham C McCann DH Morales 1B Dunn RF Garcia LF Viciedo 3B Gillaspie SS Kozma Bench C Phegley UTIL Garcia OF Danks Free Agent Rotation Sale Quintana Danks Erik Johnson Josh Johnson/Edinson Volquez/Tim Lincecum Bullpen Rienzo Lindstrom Howell Veal Petricka Jones Reed Thoughts? Waste of money, window is too short with McCann and Morales. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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