Fantasy football advice thread

[IlliniKrush]

If it's PPR, it's not a must to have a QB in a flex. Non-PPR, definitely.

[Rowand44]

If it's PPR, it's not a must to have a QB in a flex. Non-PPR, definitely.

6 points for a throwing td, it's a must no matter what.

Edited September 3, 2013 by Rowand44

[nitetrain8601]

12 teamer

QB Cam Newton, Car QB

RB Ray Rice, Bal RB

RB LeSean McCoy, Phi RB

RB/WR Giovani Bernard, Cin RB

WR Dwayne Bowe, KC WR

WR DeSean Jackson, Phi WR

TE Jason Witten, Dal TE

OP Robert Griffin III, Wsh QB  P

DT Muhammad Wilkerson, NYJ DT, DE

DE Jared Allen, Min DE

LB Luke Kuechly, Car LB

LB Bobby Wagner, Sea LB

CB Cortland Finnegan, StL CB

CB Devin McCourty, NE CB

S Eric Weddle, SD S

D/ST Broncos D/ST D/ST

K Dan Bailey, Dal K

 

Bench Vick Ballard, Ind RB

Bench Rueben Randle, NYG WR

Bench Andre Roberts, Ari WR

Bench Zach Sudfeld, NE TE

Bench Mark Barron, TB S

Bench Santana Moss, Wsh WR

Bench Aldon Smith, SF LB  Q

Bench Cowboys D/ST D/ST

IR

 

Here's the scoring breakdown

Passing Every 25 passing yards (PY25) 1 Each Pass Completed (PC) 1

Each Incomplete Pass (INC) -1 TD Pass (PTD) 5

50+ yard TD pass bonus (PTD50) 1 Interceptions Thrown (INT) -2

2pt Passing Conversion (2PC) 2 400+ yard passing game (P400) 1

Sacked (SK) -0.5

 

 

Rushing Every 10 rushing yards (RY10) 1 TD Rush (RTD) 6

40+ yard TD rush bonus (RTD40) 1 50+ yard TD rush bonus (RTD50) 2

2pt Rushing Conversion (2PR) 2 100-199 yard rushing game (RY100) 1

200+ yard rushing game (RY200) 2

 

 

Receiving Every 10 receiving yards (REY10) 1 Each reception (REC) 1

TD Reception (RETD) 6 40+ yard TD rec bonus (RETD40) 1

50+ yard TD rec bonus (RETD50) 2 2pt Receiving Conversion (2PRE) 2

 

 

Miscellaneous Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 6 Punt Return TD (PRTD) 6

Fumble Recovered for TD (FTD) 6 Total Fumbles Lost (FUML) -2

Interception Return TD (INTTD) 1 Fumble Return TD (FRTD) 1

Blocked Punt or FG return for TD (BLKKRTD) 1

 

 

Kicking Each PAT Made (PAT) 1 Each PAT Missed (PATM) -1

Total FG Missed (FGM) -1 FG Made (0-39 yards) (FG0) 3

FG Made (40-49 yards) (FG40) 4 FG Made (50+ yards) (FG50) 5

 

 

Defensive Players Each Sack (SK) 2 Total Tackles (TK) 1

Blocked Punt, PAT or FG (BLKK) 1 Each Interception (INT) 3

Each Fumble Recovered (FR) 2 Each Fumble Forced (FF) 2

Each Safety (SF) 1 Stuffs (SF) 0.5

 

 

Team Defense / Special Teams Each Sack (SK) 1 Interception Return TD (INTTD) 6

Fumble Return TD (FRTD) 6 Kickoff Return TD (KRTD) 6

Punt Return TD (PRTD) 6 Blocked Punt or FG return for TD (BLKKRTD) 6

Blocked Punt, PAT or FG (BLKK) 2 Each Interception (INT) 2

Each Fumble Recovered (FR) 2 Each Safety (SF) 2

0 points allowed (PA0) 10 1-6 points allowed (PA1) 7

7-13 points allowed (PA7) 4 14-17 points allowed (PA14) 1

22-27 points allowed (PA22) -1 28-34 points allowed (PA28) -4

35-45 points allowed (PA35) -7 46+ points allowed (PA46) -10

 

I think I made out like a bandit to be honest.

[IlliniKrush]

6 points for a throwing td, it's a must no matter what.

Well if that's the case, sure. But those leagues are silly.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

6 points for a throwing td, it's a must no matter what.

 

Aren't passing TDs usually 4 points though?

[StrangeSox]

The Yahoo! standard is 4pts/passing TD, 6pts/receiving or rushing TD.

[Steve9347]

I don't want to live in a world where all touchdowns aren't equal.

[witesoxfan]

I don't want to live in a world where all touchdowns aren't equal.

 

If you do that, you begin to get to the point where not taking a guy like Brady, Brees, Manning, or Rodgers in the first becomes silly because they are getting an additional 80 points compared to standard leagues. You are talking about 240 points from touchdowns alone, minus 20 points for the 10 interceptions he throws. Add the additional 160 points you get from the passing yards (4000, minimum, for ~160 points) and you're at 380. Then you can throw in 2-6 (we'll use 4) rushing touchdowns and 160 rushing yards (which is a rather small amount for some of these guys) and you are looking at 420 points, which is almost 90 points more than Adrian Peterson got last year in standard leagues.

 

Cut that to 4 points per touchdown, and the world makes sense again.

 

Passing touchdowns are not equal to receiving or rushing touchdowns, which is why we track them separately.

[LittleHurt05]

Well if that's the case, sure. But those leagues are silly.

 

I concur.

[LittleHurt05]

If you do that, you begin to get to the point where not taking a guy like Brady, Brees, Manning, or Rodgers in the first becomes silly because they are getting an additional 80 points compared to standard leagues. You are talking about 240 points from touchdowns alone, minus 20 points for the 10 interceptions he throws. Add the additional 160 points you get from the passing yards (4000, minimum, for ~160 points) and you're at 380. Then you can throw in 2-6 (we'll use 4) rushing touchdowns and 160 rushing yards (which is a rather small amount for some of these guys) and you are looking at 420 points, which is almost 90 points more than Adrian Peterson got last year in standard leagues.

 

Cut that to 4 points per touchdown, and the world makes sense again.

 

Passing touchdowns are not equal to receiving or rushing touchdowns, which is why we track them separately.

 

Same thing with passing yards. There is a reason why they are 25 yards per point, and not ten.

[StrangeSox]

If you do that, you begin to get to the point where not taking a guy like Brady, Brees, Manning, or Rodgers in the first becomes silly because they are getting an additional 80 points compared to standard leagues. You are talking about 240 points from touchdowns alone, minus 20 points for the 10 interceptions he throws. Add the additional 160 points you get from the passing yards (4000, minimum, for ~160 points) and you're at 380. Then you can throw in 2-6 (we'll use 4) rushing touchdowns and 160 rushing yards (which is a rather small amount for some of these guys) and you are looking at 420 points, which is almost 90 points more than Adrian Peterson got last year in standard leagues.

 

Cut that to 4 points per touchdown, and the world makes sense again.

 

Passing touchdowns are not equal to receiving or rushing touchdowns, which is why we track them separately.

 

I think you have to go back to that "points above replacement" concept, though. Brady, Brees, Manning and Rodgers will all put up those monster numbers, lets say right around 420 points. What about QB's 5-10? If those guys are still going to put up numbers somewhat close to that, then you need to look at the positions where the difference between the first, second and third tiers are greater.

 

FWIW both of the leagues I'm in are 6pts/all TD's, and it was still RB/WR-heavy in the 1st and 2nd rounds.

[IlliniKrush]

I don't want to live in a world where all touchdowns aren't equal.

See below about yardage.

 

If you do that, you begin to get to the point where not taking a guy like Brady, Brees, Manning, or Rodgers in the first becomes silly because they are getting an additional 80 points compared to standard leagues. You are talking about 240 points from touchdowns alone, minus 20 points for the 10 interceptions he throws. Add the additional 160 points you get from the passing yards (4000, minimum, for ~160 points) and you're at 380. Then you can throw in 2-6 (we'll use 4) rushing touchdowns and 160 rushing yards (which is a rather small amount for some of these guys) and you are looking at 420 points, which is almost 90 points more than Adrian Peterson got last year in standard leagues.

 

Cut that to 4 points per touchdown, and the world makes sense again.

 

Passing touchdowns are not equal to receiving or rushing touchdowns, which is why we track them separately.

Makes perfect sense.

 

Same thing with passing yards. There is a reason why they are 25 yards per point, and not ten.

Exactly what I was going to post. He must not want to live in a world where all yards aren't equal.

[witesoxfan]

I think you have to go back to that "points above replacement" concept, though. Brady, Brees, Manning and Rodgers will all put up those monster numbers, lets say right around 420 points. What about QB's 5-10? If those guys are still going to put up numbers somewhat close to that, then you need to look at the positions where the difference between the first, second and third tiers are greater.

 

FWIW both of the leagues I'm in are 6pts/all TD's, and it was still RB/WR-heavy in the 1st and 2nd rounds.

 

QBs 5-10 include guys like RGIII, Wilson, Newton, and Kaepernick. Their value goes way, way down because their numbers have so heavily reliant upon them running the ball (although maybe not Griffin as much this year). At that point, you are considering guys like Eli and Roethlisberger in that area too.

[Steve9347]

If you do that, you begin to get to the point where not taking a guy like Brady, Brees, Manning, or Rodgers in the first becomes silly because they are getting an additional 80 points compared to standard leagues. You are talking about 240 points from touchdowns alone, minus 20 points for the 10 interceptions he throws. Add the additional 160 points you get from the passing yards (4000, minimum, for ~160 points) and you're at 380. Then you can throw in 2-6 (we'll use 4) rushing touchdowns and 160 rushing yards (which is a rather small amount for some of these guys) and you are looking at 420 points, which is almost 90 points more than Adrian Peterson got last year in standard leagues.

 

Cut that to 4 points per touchdown, and the world makes sense again.

 

Passing touchdowns are not equal to receiving or rushing touchdowns, which is why we track them separately.

Yeah, but you're still comparing those guys to players at the same position - so waiting on a matt stafford to get stud RBs still makes sense.

[witesoxfan]

Yeah, but you're still comparing those guys to players at the same position - so waiting on a matt stafford to get stud RBs still makes sense.

 

I won't argue that, but it falls off pretty precipitously after that. There's value in those 6-10 guys, but it's a lot different than it is in a standard league. Like I said, if you miss out on Stafford - with either him or Luck probably the last amongst that final group - you are counting on improvements as a passer from your read option types, or you are banking on Roethlisberger or Eli.

 

And, if you're smart, you can get guys like Wilson, Miller, and Lacy in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

[Steve9347]

I won't argue that, but it falls off pretty precipitously after that. There's value in those 6-10 guys, but it's a lot different than it is in a standard league. Like I said, if you miss out on Stafford - with either him or Luck probably the last amongst that final group - you are counting on improvements as a passer from your read option types, or you are banking on Roethlisberger or Eli.

 

And, if you're smart, you can get guys like Wilson, Miller, and Lacy in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.

It does a better job of creating parity in player values vs everyone just wanting to scoop up rbs in rounds 1 and 2.

[witesoxfan]

It does a better job of creating parity in player values vs everyone just wanting to scoop up rbs in rounds 1 and 2.

 

Adding PPR does that too and actually increases the number of players that actually have value, as opposed to it being like the top 20 running backs, the top 12 quarterbacks, and then like 12-20 receivers because everyone is the same after that.

 

It also takes value away from big play threats like Vincent Jackson, but they're still valuable enough and, if a guy is actually involved in the passing game instead of one lucky play, he is rewarded more than said lucky guy.

[T R U]

I had a draft today for an 8 team non PPR start 3 WR 6 points for TD pass league and ended up with

 

QB Matthew Stafford

RB Trent Richardson

RB Stevan Ridley

WR Calvin Johnson

WR Dez Bryant

WR Demaryius Thomas

 

 

[IlliniKrush]

What does everyone think of Russ Wilson for this year?

Like, think in general he's going too late in drafts/too low in relation to other QBs. Certainly can get by with him as your QB in a league.

[LittleHurt05]

f*** ESPN and their Monte Ball hype. He might be dead right now.

[ZoomSlowik]

I guess we've found this year's Kevin Ogletree. Rush to add Julius Thomas in 3, 2...

[Brian]

I guess we've found this year's Kevin Ogletree. Rush to add Julius Thomas in 3, 2...

 

Ogle tree was a fluke. If Thomas plays every week, Peyton will find him. He creates careers for TEs

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

Ok who wins this trade....

 

Adrian Peterson and Colin Kaepernick

 

for

 

Aaron Rodgers and DeMarco Murray

[Buehrle>Wood]

Ok who wins this trade....

 

Adrian Peterson and Colin Kaepernick

 

for

 

Aaron Rodgers and DeMarco Murray

1st guy

[ChiliIrishHammock24]

1st guy

 

That's what I am thinking. But I am hoping it's fair enough for him to accept.