southsider2k5 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 http://www.csnchicago.com/white-sox-talk/r...7c75c-251514942 NEW YORK -- Adam Dunn said late Tuesday night he isn’t considering retirement and doesn’t think the 2013 season will be his last -- at least for now. Earlier in the day, Dunn told FoxSports.com’s Ken Rosenthal he’d consider calling it quits if he’s no longer enjoying himself on the field, something that could be an issue if the White Sox continue the retooling process they began around the July 31 nonwaiver trade deadline. But Dunn, 33, who has one season left on a four-year contract with the White Sox, said retirement isn’t on his mind. “No,” Dunn said. “As of right now it’s a no. I think we went down this road before: the day that I quit having fun and quit enjoying making a struggle to come to the ballpark or not enjoying the competition out there is the day I will go home, whether it be tomorrow, whether it be 10 years from now. I’m still enjoying the competition. It’s just tough losing when you have such high expectations.” Dunn has made it clear he isn’t having as much fun this season as he did in 2012. More at link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Rosenthal had a nice scoop but it was obvious that story was going to change quickly ... as it did. He's not giving up 15 million bucks. Odds of that are the same as the Sox winning the WS next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleHurt05 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 Praising Adam Dunn (While We Still Can) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted September 5, 2013 Share Posted September 5, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 4, 2013 -> 03:19 PM) Rosenthal had a nice scoop but it was obvious that story was going to change quickly ... as it did. He's not giving up 15 million bucks. Odds of that are the same as the Sox winning the WS next year. He actually didn't have any scoop. Dunn never mentioned retiring after this season, even during the initial interview. It was a lazy column to attract page views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Adam Dunn told Fox Sports that he will consider retiring this offseason despite the fact that the Chicago White Sox slugger is under contract for $15 million in 2014. Dunn, 33, has 30 home runs this season despite a .228 batting average and has 436 homers over his 13-year career. But the two-time All-Star acknowledged Tuesday that he is not concerned about reaching the 500-homer mark or collecting his guaranteed salary for next year. "I'm not coming back just to come back for money or because I have one year left [on my contract]," Dunn told Fox Sports. "I'm not coming back to chase home run numbers or whatever. If I end up with 499 and I'm not having fun, see ya -- 499 it is." Although he has been a consistent power hitter since the beginning of last season, Dunn has struggled to a .199 batting average over 403 games since signing a four-year, $56 million deal with the White Sox prior to the 2011 season. Dunn told Fox Sports that he considers this season "a great letdown" by the White Sox, who entered play Wednesday with a 56-81 record -- the third-worst in the majors. "Winning is everything, especially now," he said. "That's why it's so tough. The expectations that not only I had, but we had as a team, were really high. For this to happen, I don't like the word 'devastating,' but it's probably tougher to handle than most." Dunn also said that one of his deciding factors would be Chicago's chances of success in 2014 after the White Sox traded ace right-hander Jake Peavy and two-time All-Star outfielder Alex Rios this season. "If it's looking like it's going to be one of those 'Oh boy' kind of years, that's going to determine a lot," Dunn said. http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...ring-retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 Sigh. I can't even remember a series of articles where quotes have been misread his consistently for so many days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 QUOTE (Wanne @ Sep 6, 2013 -> 01:36 AM) Adam Dunn told Fox Sports that he will consider retiring this offseason despite the fact that the Chicago White Sox slugger is under contract for $15 million in 2014. Dunn, 33, has 30 home runs this season despite a .228 batting average and has 436 homers over his 13-year career. But the two-time All-Star acknowledged Tuesday that he is not concerned about reaching the 500-homer mark or collecting his guaranteed salary for next year. "I'm not coming back just to come back for money or because I have one year left [on my contract]," Dunn told Fox Sports. "I'm not coming back to chase home run numbers or whatever. If I end up with 499 and I'm not having fun, see ya -- 499 it is." Although he has been a consistent power hitter since the beginning of last season, Dunn has struggled to a .199 batting average over 403 games since signing a four-year, $56 million deal with the White Sox prior to the 2011 season. Dunn told Fox Sports that he considers this season "a great letdown" by the White Sox, who entered play Wednesday with a 56-81 record -- the third-worst in the majors. "Winning is everything, especially now," he said. "That's why it's so tough. The expectations that not only I had, but we had as a team, were really high. For this to happen, I don't like the word 'devastating,' but it's probably tougher to handle than most." Dunn also said that one of his deciding factors would be Chicago's chances of success in 2014 after the White Sox traded ace right-hander Jake Peavy and two-time All-Star outfielder Alex Rios this season. "If it's looking like it's going to be one of those 'Oh boy' kind of years, that's going to determine a lot," Dunn said. http://espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/story/_/id/...ring-retirement He didn't talk about it again did he? This is just reax to the Rosenthal story I believe. Anyhow, please Adam, please retire. Please let the White Sox move on without the breeze coming from your bat. I'd bet a helluva lot of money he will never walk away from 15 million next year. His wife would hit him over the head with a pan as well she should if he doesn't "play" one more season with that kind of money on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanne Posted September 6, 2013 Share Posted September 6, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 5, 2013 -> 07:55 PM) He didn't talk about it again did he? This is just reax to the Rosenthal story I believe. Anyhow, please Adam, please retire. Please let the White Sox move on without the breeze coming from your bat. I'd bet a helluva lot of money he will never walk away from 15 million next year. His wife would hit him over the head with a pan as well she should if he doesn't "play" one more season with that kind of money on the line. well...it's on espnchicago dated september 4th. That being said..I doubt he walks too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Adam Dunn has one home run this month after hitting four in August and five in July. That's still pretty pedestrian slugger numbers for a LONG stretch of games. He's 4 for 38 this month with 21 Ks. He hit .148 and .165 in April and May respectively. So basically 2 1/2 months of the year he's been totally and utterly pathetic. He's hitting .197 vs. lefties this season with six homers in 117 at bats with .294 OBP. If we're going to keep him I would get somebody he can platoon with at DH. Play him only vs. righties where he still strikes out at an alarming rate and I would truly spot his playing time in April and May. Who cares if we anger him. He'll be finally gone after next year anyway. Platoon him. In August he did hit .267 with 13 RBIs. At one point he was 8 for 15 against Detroit and Minnie in games where he was supposedly hitting to all fields more. The bulk of that damage was in 3 games vs. Minnie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 He had an OPS of .881 and .976 last April and May. I'm not totally against a platoon but I think you play him everyday and get what you get out of him. He's had the most HRs and RBIs vs LHP on our team the last 2 years. As long as he's producing I can care less what he bats and how many Ks he gets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 02:08 PM) Adam Dunn has one home run this month after hitting four in August and five in July. That's still pretty pedestrian slugger numbers for a LONG stretch of games. He's 4 for 38 this month with 21 Ks. He hit .148 and .165 in April and May respectively. So basically 2 1/2 months of the year he's been totally and utterly pathetic. He's hitting .197 vs. lefties this season with six homers in 117 at bats with .294 OBP. If we're going to keep him I would get somebody he can platoon with at DH. Play him only vs. righties where he still strikes out at an alarming rate and I would truly spot his playing time in April and May. Who cares if we anger him. He'll be finally gone after next year anyway. Platoon him. In August he did hit .267 with 13 RBIs. At one point he was 8 for 15 against Detroit and Minnie in games where he was supposedly hitting to all fields more. The bulk of that damage was in 3 games vs. Minnie. wait- you want to platoon a guy who will be making 15 million a year, but you defended ozzie to death when he played highly paid guys JUST because they were highly paid, even when they were playing like crap? agenda! hypocrite! Edited September 14, 2013 by ron883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 07:31 PM) He had an OPS of .881 and .976 last April and May. I'm not totally against a platoon but I think you play him everyday and get what you get out of him. He's had the most HRs and RBIs vs LHP on our team the last 2 years. As long as he's producing I can care less what he bats and how many Ks he gets. You said "as long as he's producing." My post was meant to point out how little he's producing. QUOTE (ron883 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 07:45 PM) wait- you want to platoon a guy who will be making 15 million a year, but you defended ozzie to death when he played highly paid guys JUST because they were highly paid, even when they were playing like crap? agenda! hypocrite! Yes, that's how sick I am of Adam Dunn. I want a platoon. As far as Ozzie, I'm glad you remember my posts, it makes me feel good that I'm verbose enough that people remember my position on matters, but you actually got it wrong. I actually said that is why Ozzie was trotting Dunn out there every day, because he had no choice in the matter. Because the Sox had acquired him and you couldn't just sit a guy making that kind of money. It would be a direct slap to the GM who had made the huge offseason move. Now a few years and zillions of strikeouts later, could you sit a guy and his 15 million? Probably not. But I can pray. Your reaction that I have an agenda and am hypocrite in this matter is wrong, though. Yes, you have to play the high paid acquisitions, but that was right after KW got Dunn. It's still true to a certain extent but yes I hope they platoon Dunn or at least cut his at bats in half. Bless those people who have gone to a ton of games the past few years despite the presence of all those Ks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) He's been bad the last few weeks, this is true, do I expect him to produce that little next year? not at all. I'm not gonna "pray" he's off the team because he's had a bad few weeks to end the season. Do I think he'll be the hitter he was from June-August? No probably not. Do I think he's still a valuable player even if he hits .210 with 30+ HRs 90+ HRs and Ks 200+ times? Absolutely. If Dunn didn't K so much he'd be a superstar, instead he's merely a good productive player. He leads the team in HRs, RBIs, OPS, and he's 2nd in runs. Edited September 14, 2013 by scs787 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lasttriptotulsa Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Only in Greg's world is Dunn's .754 OPS so bad that he should retire, but Konerko's .685 is so good he is deserving of a 3 year contract. At this point you have to be trolling right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 Greg, since you like google things like "Hilary Clinton is a b****" and they sway your opinion, how about you google "Strikeouts are overrated".....There's A TON of articles so it must be true right? (Thats right, I peep the filibuster from time to time) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 09:50 PM) He's been bad the last few weeks, this is true, do I expect him to produce that little next year? not at all. I'm not gonna "pray" he's off the team because he's had a bad few weeks to end the season. Do I think he'll be the hitter he was from June-August? No probably not. Do I think he's still a valuable player even if he hits .210 with 30+ HRs 90+ HRs and Ks 200+ times? Absolutely. If Dunn didn't K so much he'd be a superstar, instead he's merely a good productive player. He leads the team in HRs, RBIs, OPS, and he's 2nd in runs. Oh well. You must not have read my stats I posted. I can't blame you for not listening; I often times don't listen in regards to my favorite players, but seriously, what do you see in Dunn that I don't? He angers me beyond belief if "angers" is the right word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 09:56 PM) Only in Greg's world is Dunn's .754 OPS so bad that he should retire, but Konerko's .685 is so good he is deserving of a 3 year contract. At this point you have to be trolling right? The wall I punched a hole in regarding Dunn's at bat the other day in which he fouled off a meatball on the first pitch on the outside part of the plate, one he should have drilled to left to score the runner from second, proves I'm not trolling. Also, once again, incorrect. I never said Paulie should get a 3 year deal. WTF? I said I want him back. He's at the stage he gets no more than the one year Thome type deals when Thome was at the end. I also have said I can understand if the Sox don't want him back. But I think Mr. White Sox deserves a fair sendoff. Plus he might bounce back. The man has been excellent until this season. Why do some Sox fans discount the possibility of a Paulie comeback? You could reduce his bats and he'll still connect vs. lefties I'd bet you. QUOTE (scs787 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 10:21 PM) Greg, since you like google things like "Hilary Clinton is a b****" and they sway your opinion, how about you google "Strikeouts are overrated".....There's A TON of articles so it must be true right? (Thats right, I peep the filibuster from time to time) My gosh you guys are so inaccurate. I googled Hillary Clinton is a b**** to try to find things that might support my supposition that she treats "commoners" poorly. I posted stats how badly Dunn has been in April and May and how he has 10 homers the last 2 1/2 months. But to each his own. If you like Dunn the hitter, fine. I only like Dunn the person; I despise Dunn the hitter.I stand by my statement that I am like the Pied Piper to newbies on here. They seem to have greg's positions on everything memorized. I can't utter anybody's positions on anything except Caufield used to like to talk about attendance (he hasn't since he returned from traveling the globe for a month) and fathom likes to point out technical things in people's swings and pitching deliveries. Edited September 14, 2013 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 14, 2013 -> 04:30 PM) Oh well. You must not have read my stats I posted. I can't blame you for not listening; I often times don't listen in regards to my favorite players, but seriously, what do you see in Dunn that I don't? He angers me beyond belief if "angers" is the right word. 31 and 82, that's what I see and you don't apparently. That 82 number is probably better with a better team around him as well. Here's something I read in a sporting news article. That makes what Reynolds did Tuesday worthy of applause. In the bottom of the second inning, Reynolds doubled in Miguel Montero to reach the 100-RBI plateau for the first time in his career. Unfortunately, it was what Reynolds did in three of his other four at-bats that garnered more attention. Reynolds struck out three times, setting a new major league record for single-season strikeouts (206). The old record? His own, set during the 2008 season when he became the first player in major history to strike out 200 times in a season. While we're piling on, Tuesday marked the 24th time this season that Reynolds struck out three or more times in one game. � His reaction afterward: So what? Good for him. The fact that Reynolds probably will strike out at least 20 more times this season doesn't mean a thing. If he were a light-hitting middle infielder, perhaps his strikeout total would be more alarming. But because he is a power-hitting run producer, you must take the good with the bad. And there is plenty of good. Reynolds ranks among the major league leaders in homers, slugging percentage and OPS. http://www.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2009...-overrated-stat You can replace Reynolds name with Dunns and it still fits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2nd_city_saint787 Posted September 14, 2013 Share Posted September 14, 2013 and as far as the numbers you brought up goes who knows maybe this part of the article comes into play... Reynolds is improving as a hitter even as his whiffs tick upward, so why try to rework his swing and/or approach? By doing so, you might do more harm than good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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