Palehosefan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 What a ridiculous season 7 games into it for UNC. Lose to Belmont 9 point win over #3 Louisville Lose to UAB 14 point win over #1 MSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Tie. I blame Illinois. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Kenpom has declared the big 10 the winner due to a better free throw percentage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Roy Williams absolutely owns Tom Izzo. Tom Izzo is now 0-7 against Roy Williams since Roy went to UNC and not a single one of those games has been competitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 I knew Abrams wasn't playing good basketball, but I didn't know he was 31% on 10.5 FGA per game bad. Groce really needs to give Tate a start soon. Worst case is Tate fails, Abrams doesn't respond, and then everything goes back to the way they are now. Maybe Tate embraces the role and holds onto it for a bit while Abrams responds well and provides a spark off the bench. Only one way to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clyons Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 4, 2013 -> 10:58 PM) Tie. I blame Illinois. That's fair, but I blame the nation's #1 team that played at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (PlaySumFnJurny @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 08:39 AM) That's fair, but I blame the nation's #1 team that played at home. I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenksismyhero Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Hadn't seen this on the shot that won GT the game: How on earth did the ref miss this? It's literally right in front of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 06:07 PM) Hadn't seen this on the shot that won GT the game: How on earth did the ref miss this? It's literally right in front of him. According to a former ref on the GT site, it's not that refs job to call the travel, as he's watching for contact between the players. It was a bad call, no doubt...but like I said yesterday, it just balances out the brutal goal-tend that wasn't called In reality, my best bet is that once the ref decided not to call Egwu for putting both hands on Miller's back, he just decided to let the play go and ended up allowing the blatant travel which makes him look foolish. Edited December 5, 2013 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 12:07 PM) Hadn't seen this on the shot that won GT the game: How on earth did the ref miss this? It's literally right in front of him. OMG STOP b****ING ABOUT THE REFS THAT'S ALL ILLINOIS FANS DO!!!!! QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 12:36 PM) According to a former ref on the GT site, it's not that refs job to call the travel, as he's watching for contact between the players. It was a bad call, no doubt...but like I said yesterday, it just balances out the brutal goal-tend that wasn't called In reality, my best bet is that once the ref decided not to call Egwu for putting both hands on Miller's back, he just decided to let the play go and ended up allowing the blatant travel which makes him look foolish. It may not be his job, but a blind man could have seen that travel, even if he wasn't looking for it. That travel would have been called in a 5th grade basketball game. Plus, the 2nd(!) travel happened after contact was done. There's not a whole lot else to look at. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 10:23 PM) It may not be his job, but a blind man could have seen that travel, even if he wasn't looking for it. That travel would have been called in a 5th grade basketball game. Plus, the 2nd(!) travel happened after contact was done. There's not a whole lot else to look at. Agreed, and that's why I think he decided to let it go after he didn't call the ticky-tack touch foul (that we've seen called all year) on Egwu in the post. I'm not quite sure why Illinois didn't double-down on Miller, who was going up against a defender with 4 fouls (and GT is horrific from the perimeter). And don't get me wrong Illini fans, if GT lost by 1, I'm sure I would have been talking about the goal-tending that wasn't called and going on and on about how the refs were awful. Edited December 5, 2013 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 5, 2013 Author Share Posted December 5, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 03:23 PM) It may not be his job, but a blind man could have seen that travel, even if he wasn't looking for it. That travel would have been called in a 5th grade basketball game. Plus, the 2nd(!) travel happened after contact was done. There's not a whole lot else to look at. I see refs from half court intervene and call fouls out of their jurisdiction, under the basket, all the time. Don't buy the argument that it wasn't the refs call. Otherwise, why do refs ever huddle and get each other opinions on a call? Makes no sense. Ref missed obvious travel that probably cost Illinois the game. The End. Edited December 5, 2013 by Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 Marshall Henderson is the best player ever to watch. He's so bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted December 6, 2013 Author Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 10:14 PM) Marshall Henderson is the best player ever to watch. He's so bad. Agree. He's a human car wreck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Brian @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 04:19 PM) I see refs from half court intervene and call fouls out of their jurisdiction, under the basket, all the time. Don't buy the argument that it wasn't the refs call. Otherwise, why do refs ever huddle and get each other opinions on a call? Makes no sense. Ref missed obvious travel that probably cost Illinois the game. The End. Real time it was so obvious. Horrible non call. Doesn't matter in the long run anyway. Just be glad it wasn't during the tourney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Dec 5, 2013 -> 01:07 PM) Hadn't seen this on the shot that won GT the game: How on earth did the ref miss this? It's literally right in front of him. Oh, wow. That was brutal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 12:37 AM) Real time it was so obvious. Horrible non call. Doesn't matter in the long run anyway. Just be glad it wasn't during the tourney How quickly you forget the Illinois rule from last year's tourney... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 6, 2013 -> 04:14 AM) Marshall Henderson is the best player ever to watch. He's so bad. I can't even enjoy him playing badly. It all just makes me annoyed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Kentucky isn't that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 (edited) QUOTE (danman31 @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 12:21 AM) Kentucky isn't that good. Yet. E: The talent is there. The Harrison twins seem a bit overrated at this point, but if they put it together they can win a lot of games. The good Calipari teams have always had good PGs, whether it be Rose, Evans, Wall (Bledsoe), or even Teague (although having the brow and a sophomore class that shouldn't have been there helped). Edited December 7, 2013 by Boogua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Ah frank haithball, that no offense no rebounding beauty of a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Have to say UCLA looks really good. Their offense is deadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Dec 7, 2013 -> 07:29 PM) Have to say UCLA looks really good. Their offense is deadly. They caught a huge break with Kyle Anderson returning. Zach LaVine looks like maybe the most underrated recruit of this freshman class. They have great perimeter play, but I think they'll struggle with strong frontcourt teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Damn Wes Clark is gonna be fun to have around for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 7, 2013 Share Posted December 7, 2013 Quite the second half. Not so much for UCLA, geez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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