Soxbadger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 The only time Indiana beats Wisconsin they rush the court. I read Crean giving Wisconsin some respect earlier today so I had this strange feeling that the ball would bounce their way tonight. Win some lose some. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Hoosiers! And why the hell are you rushing the court. Stop it. With the possible exception of beating a #1 team, students should not rush the court anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 I mean Indiana beat an undefeated team who they havent beat in 6 years. I know Crean thinks Indiana is "special", but this may be the only time those kids see Indiana beat Wisconsin through out their college career. Let them have some fun. Just dont tell me Indiana is a more elite program than Wisconsin, the last 2 times Indiana beat them they rushed the court. The last 10+ times Wisconsin did, no one cared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:03 PM) I mean Indiana beat an undefeated team who they havent beat in 6 years. I know Crean thinks Indiana is "special", but this may be the only time those kids see Indiana beat Wisconsin through out their college career. Let them have some fun. Just dont tell me Indiana is a more elite program than Wisconsin, the last 2 times Indiana beat them they rushed the court. The last 10+ times Wisconsin did, no one cared. Because rushing the court against a 1-15 or 3-13 or 4-12 conference team makes a lot of sense. That's why the streak to Wisconsin was bad and bothered me somewhat, but not terribly because it was kind of hollow in that most of those wins were against the awful Indiana teams. Everyone was beating IU and had long streaks against us. It wasn't exactly hard. It's why our graduating class has the dubious distinction of enjoying the absolute worst 4-year stretch in IU basketball history. The class behind us was supposed to take the title, but we surprisingly became good one year earlier than expected. And the last time IU beat Wisconsin, IU was unranked while Wisconsin was ranked 2nd, 21-1 overall and 7-0 in the Big Ten, so that's more coincidence than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Even at their lowest Indiana is full of players that are supposedly more talented than Wisconsin. I get taht you guys like to make excuses for Crean, but lets be honest you had Zeller etc, you should have won more, especially at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) I hate rushing the court elitism. They're college kids. Let them have fun. If they just beat Savannah State by 40 and want to rush the court than so be it. Edited January 15, 2014 by Buehrle>Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:21 PM) Even at their lowest Indiana is full of players that are supposedly more talented than Wisconsin. I get taht you guys like to make excuses for Crean, but lets be honest you had Zeller etc, you should have won more, especially at home. What are you talking about? In 08-09, Indiana had ONE returning scholarship player, and that guy was a redshirt senior former walk on who had a grand total of 34 points. The best recruit was Verdell Jones III, ranked #126. You seriously trying to claim anyone considered Wisconsin less talented than that? The next two years were also awful. 09-10 was the freshman year for Hulls, Watford, etc. A good win over a decent Pitt team, but that's it. 10-11 was the freshman year for Oladipo and Sheehey, who were athletic but raw. Trying to claim Wisconsin had less talent than any of those teams is laughable. And since when do I make excuses for Crean? I was questioning him all game long today. The zone, the decision to put in Etherington for Vonleh, calling a timeout after Yogi's free throws put us up 2...he was driving me nuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:25 PM) I hate rushing the court elitism. They're college kids. Let them have fun. If they just beat Savannah State by 40 and want to rush the court than so be it. Eh, it's not elitism, but I'm the biggest hypocrite in the world on this point because I've rushed the court at Indiana against not-exactly-elite Illinois and Minnesota teams (though I maintain the Illinois rush was legit. The Minnesota one was dumb and I only did it because if I didn't I legitimately would have been trampled.). I just think that hey, we're supposed to be back competing for the top of again, we're not down on our luck anymore, it's time to act like it. Kinda as if rushing the court against Kentucky was the pinnacle, and after that it was not enough to just rush the court because it was a monumental program win -- it had to be a legit, #1 team win. But like I said I'm a hypocrite on this point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:25 PM) I hate rushing the court elitism. They're college kids. Let them have fun. If they just beat Savannah State by 40 and want to rush the court than so be it. I hate rushing the court flippancy. OMG RUSH THE COURT WE WON A GAME SO FUN I'M IN COLLEGE! It's dangerous, and it's stupid. Rushing is the only way to have fun in college? QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:39 PM) Eh, it's not elitism, but I'm the biggest hypocrite in the world on this point because I've rushed the court at Indiana against not-exactly-elite Illinois and Minnesota teams (though I maintain the Illinois rush was legit. The Minnesota one was dumb and I only did it because if I didn't I legitimately would have been trampled.). I just think that hey, we're supposed to be back competing for the top of again, we're not down on our luck anymore, it's time to act like it. Kinda as if rushing the court against Kentucky was the pinnacle, and after that it was not enough to just rush the court because it was a monumental program win -- it had to be a legit, #1 team win. But like I said I'm a hypocrite on this point. That was one of the most ridiculous floor rushes ever. It was not legit whatsoever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmteam Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 09:57 PM) That was one of the most ridiculous floor rushes ever. It was not legit whatsoever. Yes it was. We're just going to disagree on this one. I said it at the time and I'll say it again, but people outside the school didn't understand how much that win meant for the program. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 03:57 AM) I hate rushing the court flippancy. OMG RUSH THE COURT WE WON A GAME SO FUN I'M IN COLLEGE! It's dangerous, and it's stupid. Rushing is the only way to have fun in college? That was one of the most ridiculous floor rushes ever. It was not legit whatsoever. Lolwut Who said it's the only way to have fun in college? You don't care that it's dangerous or stupid. We've had this argument before and there's apparently some standard that needs to be met for a bunch of half drunk college kids to have the audacity to touch the hardwood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Farmteam, Correct me if wrong but Olidapo and Zeller were 1st NBA draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 UK-'sas game has been a ton of fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 SIU students shoulda stormed the floor after upsetting NIU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Brian @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:34 PM) SIU students shoulda stormed the floor after upsetting NIU. UNI. Hooray wins! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:37 PM) UNI. Hooray wins! They don't deserve to have their initials to be in order correctly by moi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 My favorite finish of the year! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 Oh. My. God. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:50 PM) Oh. My. God. Holy s*** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (farmteam @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:00 PM) Yes it was. We're just going to disagree on this one. I said it at the time and I'll say it again, but people outside the school didn't understand how much that win meant for the program. It was ridiculous. I don't have to go to the school to evaluate it. The whole thing was overreaction central. QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 10:17 PM) Lolwut Who said it's the only way to have fun in college? You don't care that it's dangerous or stupid. We've had this argument before and there's apparently some standard that needs to be met for a bunch of half drunk college kids to have the audacity to touch the hardwood. So if it's fun, do it, it's college. That's the dumbest justification ever. And yeah, there is a standard. And actually, I do care that it's dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 When I went to Wisconsin they brought out armed police to stop students from rushing the field when Dayne broke the all time record and Wisconsin went to the Rose Bowl. The reason was in 1993 there was almost a death due to the field rush. http://host.madison.com/sports/college/foo...19bb2963f4.html So with that being said I think people should maybe be a little more judicious about storming the floor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 05:58 AM) It was ridiculous. I don't have to go to the school to evaluate it. The whole thing was overreaction central. So if it's fun, do it, it's college. That's the dumbest justification ever. And yeah, there is a standard. Anwouually, I do care that it's dangerous. There's no reason for any justification needed whatsoever. That's the whole point. It's probably drunk college kids celebrating. Oh my god, the horror. Why does anyone care? If you cared about the danger then at least tell me youre against every court rush no matter the "standard". At least that would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:05 PM) There's no reason for any justification needed whatsoever. That's the whole point. It's probably drunk college kids celebrating. Oh my god, the horror. Why does anyone care? If you cared about the danger then at least tell me youre against every court rush no matter the "standard". At least that would make sense. Wrong. You do need a reason. As it's illegal to rush a field or court, you do need to try to make up some justification. Fun? Yeah, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jan 15, 2014 -> 05:13 AM) Wrong. You do need a reason. As it's illegal to rush a field or court, you do need to try to make up some justification. Fun? Yeah, no. So you're against all court rushing then now right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted January 15, 2014 Share Posted January 15, 2014 QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jan 14, 2014 -> 11:16 PM) So you're against all court rushing then now right? Yes, I'm against all college fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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